The utter evil of ISIS

[SquirrelSoShiny]

Is anyone watching the documentary on Sky News about the genocide of the Yazidis by ISIS? The abduction of women and children who were made to be sex slaves. The tens of thousands who fled into the desert or were murdered.

I don't even why I'm so shocked by this disgusting group of individuals. I don't believe anyone linked to them should have any future in Britain. I don't even care if they were born here. They don't belong in a Western democracy.

They are depraved. Hamas also. Indescribable cruelty.

The poor woman talking was only 14 when she was taken. She was raped for 2 years. She's traumatised into no emotion describing what the men did to her. She only gets angry when she describes the Muslim wives of ISIS / ISIL soldiers who were as evil as the men. They used to put make up on the captives before their husbands raped them.

What the fuck is wrong with these people? How can anyone support them and claim to love a god? I don't remember hearing much about this in 2014 yet Gaza is on our screens every. Single. Day. And I DON'T support what Israel is doing and I loathe the vile settlers with a passion but I feel like forcing the Columbia Uni students and the Harvard students to watch this. They are cheering on Hamas who are the bloody ideological cousins of these utter bastards.

I urge you to watch this if you can stomach it. Don't even bother coming with your whatabouttery, I'm neither Jew nor Muslim, nor any faith frankly, but we need to call out evil where we see it and radical, Jihadi Islam is a plague on this planet. It's time for the millions of peaceful, law-abiding Muslims to stand up and say Enough is enough. Not in our name. Those are the marches I want to see now.

Yes, it was absolutely horrendous.

The Druze people in Syria are also CURRENTLY being attacked and murdered by Al-Jolani's Islamist government in SW Syria. They have been begging Israeli forces to go there and help defend them (there are many Druze people in Israel too).

Hamas would carry out atrocities to the same extent ISIS did, if they got a chance.

The documentary is called '10 Years of Darkness: ISIS & The Yazidis'. Alex Crawford is the brilliant journalist in the film. Well done, Sky.

I didn't know about this. Why are we only hearing about Palestine? I want to hear all these stories.

These women in the film are amazing, training as soldiers to try and rescue the remaining Yazidi captives. If there's any fucking God may God be with them.

I watched this. Horror. The ideology they follow is the biggest threat to peace in the world imo. It’s absolutely terrifying.

Yeah, you never see or hear anything about the women in Afghanistan right now either, who have fewer rights than stray cats. It makes me suspicious of the free Palestine protests even though I think Israel is largely the aggressor.

I agree completely. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I feel utter contempt for those 'peaceful, loving Muslims' who have turned their backs on the women of Afghanistan. I feel contempt for the governments doing the same. How many are dying there? Maybe we should turn the cameras away from Gaza once a week and turn the spotlight onto these other horrors.

This film is appalling. Women having to abandon their own children to return to their families because they can't bring ISIS children home. It is unbearable but powerful journalism which needs applauded.

Daesh (the name that IS hate: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/paris-attacks-what-does-daesh-mean-why-does-isis-hate-n463551) are worse than the Devil himself.
They are beyond evil.
Every single one of them in Daesh
They're not true Muslims & do not believe in God/Allah or whatever you want to call him/her
The sooner they're all gone the better.

Some of my family members were at the Ariana Grande concert but luckily weren't harmed themselves but saw things that no one should have to see.

So yes I'd be one of the millions/billions in the queue waiting to take them out - the Idiot Squad as our family/friends call IS/Daesh

https://www.timesofisrael.com/what-is-behind-latest-clashes-in-syria-between-druze-and-pro-government-gunmen/

And this is from Rawan Osman, a Syrian /Lebanese woman now living in the west:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJHwgmktQWE/?igsh=MWo2ZnB5dG9sMGJxdA==

And this from Mansor Ashkar, a Druze man from Israel:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJFDvs7oeYb/?igsh=MTc0aDZ6bmt6djdpag==

Obviously if Israel can't be blamed it doesn't get as much coverage....

This sounds so awful.

I'm still thinking about this documentary this morning.

I urge people to watch it if they can. It deserves a viewing.

That link didn't work but I would have liked to read it!

They are proper hark back to the middle ages and frightening beliefs such as that still exist in the world today.

I’m not sure I can take watching it as I feel almost powerless in doing anything about the issue.

It's worth watching to really question why we are watching horror movie images of Gaza every night without hearing a single word in the media about the great Islamic genocides happening. And I REALLY want to see Muslims in Britain / Europe starting to call out the bs if Islam really is about 'peace' and 'submission to God'. The women of Afghanistan have been abandoned. So much for the Ummah and their 'Muslim sisters'.

I was always very respectful towards Islam/ other faiths (unlike the jihadis). I'm starting to feel that more is needed because radical Islam is fundamentally incompatible with liberal, Western values. The hypocrisy of this so-called peaceful religion sickens me, in the same way those mad, hateful American churches sicken me. It's time for Western Muslims to say Enough of this. Not in our names. They will have billions of people of all faiths behind them.

I think it is too. I feel it’s an supressed discussion and very hard to build on currently.

And I REALLY want to see Muslims in Britain / Europe starting to call out the bs if Islam really is about 'peace' and 'submission to God'.

Firstly, did you all miss that they did actually condemn it? I know it's been quite a few years, but still.

Imho is quite a problematic outlook tbh. You are essentially banding them together with ISIS ignoring the fact ISIS have murdered many, MANY, muslims and even attacked Medina during Ramadan for example. Vast majority of ISIS victims were muslims.

The muslim councils all over did press releases anyway exactly because people demanded it (kind of weird to need to condemn someone people think are your people who actively kills mainly your people) , but tbh they shouldn't had to. And obviously everyone ignored them since people still seem to think they were totally silent....

Essentially (considering what ISIS did in ME) people demanding muslims to publicly condemn (sometime it felt more like demanding apology) ISIS were/are demanding victims to publicly condemn (more like apologise for tbh) their own killers and attackers and say they are bad. It's weird when you think about it this way.

Re Afghanistan, muslims states and organisation were condemning the changes since Taliban was handed Afghanistan back.

Hope that makes sense.

I think people really oversimplify all radical, religious, forms of terrorism. Many of ISIS beliefs are those which are shared with many other Islamist groups - including Hamas, Houthis, taliban. This includes, repression of women, LGBTQ+, disabled groups and other religions. Anyone who thinks otherwise is incredibly naive.

Separately, if you look at which Muslim councils or groups have condemned the above groups, you will quickly realise it is Shia condemning Sunni (as the case with ISIS) and Sunni condemning Shia (as is the case with the Houthis). That, in itself, is a problem. People disassociate from the acts of other off-shoots of their religion - and say it’s not to do with them, whilst turning a blind eye to those who commit similar crimes who are part of their (Sunni or Shia) branch. It’s incredibly unsettling. In layman’s turns, it’s like a Protestant saying ‘we condemn pedophilia in the Catholic church’ whilst ignoring that the Protestant church has its own issues with pedophilia.

What happened to the Kurds, Yezidis, Christians and Jews, alongside the Shia Muslims, in Iraq and Syria was awful. But, this began 10+ years ago. Sadly (and it doesn’t make it right) the world has moved on to the next crisis.

I’ve often thought that without religion, the world would be a better place.

Absolutely op. It’s insane that we see weekly anti Israel marches featuring people carrying isis flags. And the police almost always do nothing.

Don't forget Boko Haram. Still kidnapping women and girls.

You are being Islamophobic obviously

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@Aprilweather it does make sense and I recognise the justice in what you're saying

That said, I really do believe that there is an identity crisis in Islam now that needs addressed by Muslims and indeed all of us. Islam is basically splitting beyond Sunni and Shia and more into 'Islam' and 'radical, Jihadi Islam' which is a political movement claiming authority from God. Its rise is part of what I believe is radicalising conservative Christians too (gender ideology was the 'secular religion' feeding into this evangelical upswing) and it feels like we're heading backwards towards fucking Medieval Crusades. The moderate majority in both faiths need to speak out now and reject the fringes because the fringes are the ones recruiting, especially young men.

And how would you like them to "speak out" then?
They do rejevy these, publicly even and it's still apparent not enough

Hear hear.

And here we are the UK still letting them in.