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Nurse critically injured with life changing injury after being stabbed by a patient

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Ohthedaffodils · 13/01/2025 18:00

She was just going about her work - what on earth has this country become.
Happened at The Royal Oldham Hospital.

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Tittat50 · 13/01/2025 22:45

Again, I will put this squarely at the feet of our useless Governments; Tories mainly.

I don't know what's going on with this guy, but having spent so much time in hospital and the AMU department where most people start off post A and E, the number of mentally unwell, drunk or drug dependant people is overwhelming. Every time there is someone screaming and shouting and being abusive and from everything I've ever witnessed there's always a MH, alcohol or drug issue.

Where do these people go? Where can they go? There's no place for them. The staff call security who I've witnessed as absolutely incapable of dealing with it. The hospital feels totally obliged to offer care but they need more resources and support for all these MH cases who need their own specialist support.

It's not ok for relatives to be abusive and kick off as one poster pointed out. I do however understand people at the end of their rope trying to get the basic needs of relatives met. And that's really not happening alot of the time because there just aren't enough resources there. What I've seen again and again has actually traumatised me. There's old people stuck in beds waiting for Social care support but they'll be waiting forever to get that. You've got MH cases with absolutely nowhere to go and no long term support so they come back again and again into the hospital. Drunk and drug dependants come on again and aha and the hospital can only do so much. They'll be back again like regulars so often and the cycle continues.

If you don't work in it or experience it as a chronic health sufferer, you have no idea how scary this problem is right now. You want to hope you never get in a position where you're very unwell and need help because statistically the odds of a poor outcome seem to be getting progressively worse. I'm now afraid of hospital.

Who would want to work in this? The staff are going to get more despairing and disillusioned and with this recent awful incident, some will feel afraid.

What's the answer? I don't know.

Is there any Government that will actually sort this all out? I know the Tories have been the worst this far, the absolute detached, private school, empathy devoid buffoons half of them are. Can anyone else address this? I really don't know.

Pinkflamingo87 · 13/01/2025 22:46

I’m so desperately sad for the for nurse who has been attacked doing her job and for the profession I love. Theses incidents are not isolated and only on the increase.
I have been a nurse in A&E for 15 years.
I have seen over the years how the NHS has become more and more underfunded, understaffed and overwhelmed.
In that time I have been screamed at and verbally abused, threatened with rape, had obscene comments about F* me in the mouth and bum, had my breast and bum groped and slapped, threatened with being shot in the face, had blood spat in my face by a patient who then told me the had untreated blood born viruses, punched in the face, pushed, had hot drinks and objects thrown at me. Alway when trying my best to care for patients.

Being a nurse is undervalued, unsafe and underpaid. We are perceived as greedy and grabby if we ask for better staffing for patient safety and staff welfare and better pay for the constantly expanding role we do. We are told it’s a vocation and we should be grateful. Every year the stress and overwhelm chips a way a little bit more and I don’t know how many more years I’ll be able to do.
My daughter tells me she wants to be a nurse like her mum and I discourage it and tell her there is better out there.

MushMonster · 13/01/2025 22:51

I hope she recovers quickly.
This is crazy.
I do think that it is the tip of the iceberg. We will see more and more issues like this in the near future, sadly.

Youngheartsalittletogetherness · 13/01/2025 22:55

@Pinkflamingo87 no wonder you don't want your daughter to follow in your footsteps.
I don't like the media push that nurses are angels,I see NHS staff as doing a job in very difficult circumstances at times and it's a job done by people not angels.

Skipthisbit · 13/01/2025 23:15

It starts at school. We have taught at least 2 generations of children (mostly boys) that it ok to hit females when you don’t get what you want. And it’s defended all of the time. Defended on MN all
of the time because “unmet need”The teacher / TA is blamed for “not knowing/managing the trigger” for not modifying their “demands” I.e bowing and scraping to these children with a social/interaction diagnosis which these days means free reign to punch anyone you want because it’s the rest of the worlds job to do everything possible to do what you want.
And then they grow up. And some of them miraculously stop punching the teacher (I.e. they get to secondary school where there are male teachers and where suddenly there is a bit of peer pressure not to assault your teacher) but most carry on. They verbally or physically or sexually assault female staff and other children which is mostly fully defended by their parents as it’s the schools or girls fault because they have special needs that the women around them are meeting so it’s their fault.
Then they turn into violent entitled men who are so used to the females around doing everything possible not to upset them, not to
‘trigger them’ and to do anything to “avoid demands” that when one doesn’t they hit them because it’s totally learnt behaviour and it’s the females fault because they “can’t help themselves”

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 14/01/2025 14:26

napody · 13/01/2025 20:41

I agree- but I always thought that assaulting a police officer was taken really seriously, as a deterrent? Is that really swept under the carpet too?

As the wife of a police officer I can tell you it is swept under the carpet or CPS refuse to prosecute.

It's this idea that because police officers run "toward danger" they put themselves in harms way and therefore it's "expected". Or they defend themselves against a criminal attacking them, and the police officer is found at fault because the criminal is subsequently hurt. But if I was rolling around with a criminal, single crewed (as most police are) you can bet I'd rather they were hurt than me.

My husband worked every Notting hill carnival for the first 15 years of our relationship. Every...single....one he came home injured. Black eyes, bruises, a needle jabbed in his neck, punched, scratched, kicked etc.

Assault on emergency worker needs harsher prison sentences for ALL emergency workers!!

WaryCrow · 16/01/2025 23:03

Notdoingthatno · 13/01/2025 22:30

All so fucking terrible. So sorry to all the NHS frontline colleagues who have to face this shit day in day out.

It's shocking that these incidents are so widespread but so little focus in the general media. Yet the stupid public were all hitting their saucepans and clapping like idiots. This country is genuinely in the shit.

Yes, it would be nice to know why there isn’t more real news in the media. The infotainment provided now is pathetic.

In the Midlands it’s not uncommon for thugs to call the emergency services out specifically to attack them. How often is it heard about? Why is it that not long ago a street war was going on in Leicester for 3 weeks before it got mentioned in the news?

Couldnt be that our ‘leaders’ have gone through the stage of not wanting us to know the extent of our decline and no longer know what’s happening themselves. How can it be otherwise in land ruled by wealth, especially foreign wealth.

silversellers · 17/01/2025 00:01

Couldnt be that our ‘leaders’ have gone through the stage of not wanting us to know the extent of our decline and no longer know what’s happening themselves. How can it be otherwise in land ruled by wealth, especially foreign wealth

It may sound tin foil hat-ish but personally I feel that’s very likely @WaryCrow

And yeah the banging pots and clapping was embarrassing. My flatmate at the time went out to do it once and I could barely conceal my scorn for her.

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