TW!!! Another child killed

[Wonderi]

Trigger warning!!

This story makes me feel so sick.

It’s obviously awful to kill a child but to carry on living like nothing has happened just adds an extra level of sadness to the situation.

I don’t understand why the mother didn’t get a life sentence too as she knew exactly what was going on and should have protected her own child.

All they had to do was give her up for adoption and she would have had a chance at a happy life but instead they chose themselves over her.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07gzr5r9eko.amp

The phrase 'lessons will be learned" means absolutely fuck all now, because they never are. Evil, revolting degenerates like these two, need dispatching. There is absolutely no reason for them to be on this earth.
That poor little girl, I've just wept reading and watching that. My heart aches for what she had to endure in her short life.

There's nothing that can explain why people do such horrific things. It defies all logical.

Plenty of parents had children young, had no supports, didn't have great upbringings and most of them do everything possible to ensure their children have a better life experience than they did.

It's unbelievable how some many people abuse and neglect their children and on the other hand, there's so many people struggling with infertility that would make excellent parents.

There's no rehabilitating these people. It's a type of evil which isn't fixable.

A more in depth report here. Please only read it if you are feeling strong.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2pg04jq50o

This is not the case and you should check facts before speaking of a loving father in this way.

Apologies for any misunderstanding and I know family matters can be complicated but if a child of mine was sleeping homeless on a beach, even if I couldn’t access them for whatever reason, I would be shouting from every rooftop, attending every police station and literally would not nor could not rest until they were safe.

I am a foster carer. My current child came into care for the first time at the end of September.

He is in crisis. He has a brilliant Social worker who is busting himself trying to get the support this child needs. But he has a case load of 30 children. He has spent most of the last two weeks on my fosterlings case and will probably spend most of next week on him, because at the moment he is the child most in need.
So what happens to the other 29? That's how things get missed, how opportunities are lost, not because all SWs are incompetent

I completely agree. The system is broken and unworkable. It’s not to stay there aren’t incompetent SW but even the best are fighting uphill.

It is sickening beyond words this is. If I ever let another man into my daughter’s life ever and he stepped a foot wrong I’d be telling her dad and he’d be dealing with him no matter what. What is wrong with these women!! Children’s services will come down hard on the families on their case load now but there will be more slipping through the net!! Cause people don’t talk enough surely this child would have been seen by more than just these two inbeciles!!

I mean it's the drugs and drink isn't it.
It doesn't sound like she was sober for a single minute since leaving Bedfordshire.
I'm not trying to justify anything BTW I'm just answering the question "how could she" and that is how.. she was completely off her face the whole time and probably felt nothing nor thought about any of it beyond how to remain off her face.
Absolutely awful.

Interestingly I’ve just finished watching a 24 Hours in Police Custody where they talk about Biggleswade, where these two are from, and how much of a big drugs problem there is.

This is so true. I hadn't heard about this case, but read the article. My next comment might offend some, apologies, but it is from observations as a data manager in education. The name double - barrelling in the article. That double-barrelling has often been a strong indication of loose family ties. Where each family is making a possession claim to the child. The mother is double-barrelled surname, so is the daughter but totally different names. But who is Jonas? And as for Dad - I do hope he was a fully paid up member of the full child maintenance club. But yes another beautiful child murdered by scum. Horrifying, and no lessons will never be learned.

Mother was a nursery worker too.
hellorayo.co.uk/greatest-hits/suffolk/news/scott-jeff-sentencing-toddler-murder/

God it really wants to make me cry. The jury must be traumatised from this case

That is a horrible thing to say. You can not dump parents who double-barrel their children's name into the same category as these vile people.

I think there are similarities with the Star Hobson case. In the sense that both had mothers who were so infatuated with their partners that they would do anything to please them, even to the point of allowing them to abuse their child. It is heart breaking.

Agree.

Do please read my post in the context of the reply to the pp discussing subculture. My observation is based on years of observation and other data analysis. I might have been looking at pp, sen, postcodes, poor assessment results, absence, ethnic characteristics. Every student and their families were dealt with by staff including me professionally. But patterns emerge. This was a strong pattern for pp students. Which for school finance is economically deprived. Circling back to the pp post of sub-culture involving non-working adults.

No, it was still a horrible thing to say. I am a teacher with fifteen years worth of experience under my belt working with children and families.

Agree with this, thought the same thing when posters mentioned their young age too.

The main thing is they were off their faces on drugs and the man was an especially vile piece of shit who'd probably receive the death penalty in a lot of other countries alas here it's a tap on the wrist in relation to how messed up the crime is. Obviously the woman is just as bad too putting her new man and drugs before her daughter's safety.

You've literally said everything that I think/feel but couldn't put into words. RIP beautiful little girl xxxx