TW!!! Another child killed

[Wonderi]

Trigger warning!!

This story makes me feel so sick.

It’s obviously awful to kill a child but to carry on living like nothing has happened just adds an extra level of sadness to the situation.

I don’t understand why the mother didn’t get a life sentence too as she knew exactly what was going on and should have protected her own child.

All they had to do was give her up for adoption and she would have had a chance at a happy life but instead they chose themselves over her.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07gzr5r9eko.amp

It’s such an easy way for them, death. They will be truly hated and punished in prison.

The news report talks about the mum and boyfriend being involved in crack, cocaine and other street drugs. That must have changed everything. But doesn’t account for the awful abuse.

This week has been unbelievable. This case, Sara Sharif and Abiyah (the case in Birmingham - www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew298qg8lxo)

WTF is wrong with people?

When will it stop?

Correct link

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew298qg8lxo

My mother was awful to me. She beat me, verbally abused me, called me names. I have my own daughter now and I would never put her through what I went through. We can’t give them the grace that they might not have had a good upbringing themselves, what they did was absolutely inhumane.

You only have to come on munsnet once to see a shit tonne of threads by women who are staying with violent/aggressive/emotionally abusive men and that having the kids there doesn’t help them leave. It’s just bloody depressing. There’s one trending right now as I type this. Sure violence is a scale but make no mistake we are seeing abusive behaviour constantly and until we have a zero tolerance for it this shit will happen. Let’s stop blaming society as a whole/social workers who try their best/politicians and start taking individual responsibility.

I did read that she has some learning disabilities and was easily led - but nothing can justify or explain her actions.

It’s the fault of the parents who did it. But the entire point of having a social services is to get in there and prevent children dying at the hands of their abusers. It may not be the fault of individual social workers, who are horrendously overworked and under resourced, but the system absolutely is at fault. Almost never in these cases do you hear that the children were entirely not known to social services, they’ve all had contact somewhere along the lines, and either bad judgement or lack of resources has sent them back in to the hands of their abusers.

It's another typical case of a "mother" putting her child at risk by moving in with a random man. Putting that relationship first, sitting back and watching him slowly murder her own child. Makes me sick, they should both be strung up.

Personally I think that's too easy an option for them. I'd rather see them tossed in prison & officers turn a blind eye to other prisoners rough justice. I want them to suffer, not be quietly PTS.

that has made me feel so sick & angry. Who couldn't hurt such a gorgeous wee girl, let alone kill her. How have they made it to mid twenties without anyone noticing they're not right in the head??

that poor poor little baby girl.

How long of their sentences will they actually serve?

This is local to me so I’ve been following the story in the news. That poor little girl. What I don’t understand is the where they were living was a homeless shelter/accommodation place. I believe there is some kind of staff on site. Also there will be a lot of other mothers there so you would think that someone would have noticed.

The pictures of them dancing and laughing when that poor little girl is dead in her pushchair is shocking.

Very true PP. A crappy upbringing is so very tough, I know, I had one. Exposed to drugs and domestic violence from a very young age. My child has never and will experience this. When I gave birth, I made a decision that my child would never worry how drunk I was going to be or which drug addled person they would see in their living room whilst trying to pick up the drug detritus before their younger siblings saw it. These people are so evil and removed from society that I cannot see how rehabilitation is possible. Also, it is now just story after story of complete and utter barbaric cruelty. When will it end?

Looking at my 2 year old asleep next to me I absolutely can't comprehend this. That video of them laughing and joking about as they pushed her dead body about. Rest in peace you sweet little girl, I'm so sorry you were killed by such evil people 😣 I hope they have a horrific time in prison.

I feel for her dad as well. I bet he wishes he had custody of her.

You will probably discover that the dad was uninvolved.

The father describes his devastation, but wondering what was his level of involvement in his daughter's life that he didn't see this abuse happening.

Ironic that they lied about fleeing domestic violence to get homeless accommodation whilst all the time perpetrating the same. The 'Mother' was a nursery assistant too!

Yeah, if they were that severe she wouldn’t have custody. It doesn’t add up. She obviously knows right from wrong. Or have SS messed up two years ago, was this child always in danger?

I understand the comment

Evil monsters who deserve nothing more than a bullet or failing that a dark hole to waste away in. That poor little girl must have been terrified.

... until we have a zero tolerance for it this shit will happen. Let’s stop blaming society as a whole/social workers who try their best/politicians and start taking individual responsibility

I happen to agree with you, @MaggieBsBoat, but mentioning personal responsibility isn't always popular

On any thread which dares to mention poor - even dangerous - parenting, you'll quickly see "don't judge", "keep your beak out", "you don't know what's going on in their life" and all the rest, and in the same way people will argue that "it takes a village" but then go berserk if anyone persumes to comment about their child.
Until something like this happens that is, when it instantly becomes "someone should have done something"

This is indicative of a broken society in my mind. There’s no value to sex, no need to marry or stay together. Blended families and step parents becoming the norm and women accepting men into their home who they have known for a matter of weeks or months and those men murder their child(ren).

I just….no words. Really no words. That poor little girl must have been so confused as to why her previous loving mother was now doing this

Agree with this completely.

As you say, threads from women being abused by their partners are ten a penny on here and so many of them have kids but this doesn’t push them into seeking help.

The courts and social care system (the system; not necessarily individual workers within it) are flawed, but there’s a definite trend of women accepting (and making excuses for) abusive men and their kids being nothing more than collateral damage in the end.

Blended families are becoming far too much of a norm.

Just go and look at the step parenting boards to see the amount of disdain so many women have for their step children. Add in a step father who lives with the children full-time and it is evident that there are far too few women who care about the welfare of their children, and far too many men who are happy to exploit the fact.

We need to make this whole blended family culture a taboo. Even without abuse in the mix blended families don’t really work, and they are only ever created in the interests of the adults because “you deserve to be happy.” Well yeah, it’s possible to be happy without introducing an abusive crackhead into your child’s life who ends up killing it.

Obviously not all step parents go on to murder their step children, and not all parents stand by and laugh and dance after the event.

But there’s a lot of resentment from step parents towards their step children, and blending a family is clearly not a healthy environment for most children to be in.

Jesus fucking Christ, she was a nursery assistant too. Of all people, she should know how to safeguard her own child. Can you imagine knowing somebody like that had looked after your toddler in nursery, given what she was apparently capable of doing to her own two year old?

I’m not blaming the actual dad - sounds like the mum and new boyfriend skipped off and lived in a tent, and the poor child was dead a couple of weeks later. It’s not clear to me that the father knew where they had gone or that he didn’t want to see her/wouldn’t have accepted custody if offered it.