I didnt want to start this one but 'Mother denied daughters organs'

[misdee]

mother in need of a kidney transplant sadly her daughter died recently after an asthma attack, and donated her kidneys and liver. but the mother didnt get one.

whilst i can understand the hurt and frustration her mother is now going through, i can also see the other side, which is you cant place conditions on organs after you die.

her daughter has saved three peoples lives, she should be very very pround of her daughter.

i hope she gets a kidney soon as well, so she can carry on living and enjoying life.

she's not dead, dittany, she's on a list for now.

she's not dead, dittany, she's on a list for now.

MissyA, they don't allocate organs by the recipiants age!

Well, of course they die waiting, dittany, that's why the kidney went to someone who was even sicker than the girl's mother.

And if you change the rules you open up the entire system to organ sales.

A VERY dangerous and slippery slope.

i don't think it's a slope thing at all, it seems to me a very particular set of circumstances if a close family member is already on the list and the person who dies suddenly is able to donate. perhaps it should be advised that if someoen goes on the list their family members make a statement?

after waking this morning and reading all the comments on bbc website, i think we are going to have to do some serious damage control with some positive media spin on this.

i am feeling that one case has damaged so much

It's a very sad case but I agree there have to be very strict rules when it comes to organ donation, and those rules always have to be followed.

Me too misdee.

she has shot herself i nthe foot sadly, because if all these people are actually dereigistering, she has less chance of getting a strangers kidney. i think someone mentioned her sister is going to donate one, so she should be ok.

actually i am getting very angry about this now so will leave it, before i get too wound up.

i also think that for the mother, if she received her daughter's kidney it might help her to make sense of her daughter's death (not to mention allow her to be healthy as the primary carer for her small granddaughter). i can't see the comments on the bbc but there are some on the have your say page, tbh they read like a lot of people can't get past the emotion of the situation. nor can i, tbh.
as someone on there said, it would be my body, you need to offer it to donate it, they can't snatch organs from you. so i think it probably comes as a shock to most people to find out that in times of family crisis they can't put themselves first.
still, it's taught me something, if someone in my family goes on the register, i'm having us all make a statement to the effect that in the event of our sudden death we want it to go to them if it's a match. i really don't see what's wrong with that.

I think she should have recieved it as a familial match is always the best.I have had 2 and they have functioned way superior to others I know who have had non related and so they have a longer life.She does sound like she is more concerned about the not recieving rather than the repecting her daughters wishes but when you are that ill and on dialysis you do have desperate and different thoughts!I personally can't understand why they didn't give her one and use the other in a donor situation.Surely her daughter would have wanted that.

BTW the organ does not go to the person closest to dying it is way more involved than that.There would have been something very comforting for the mother to live a full and healthy life after such a tragedy.

I still stand by my comments from last night - I dont see why there is such an issue in people donating their organs, and why there is the option to opt out.

If there is no opt out system, there are more organs avaiable to help the people who need them (obviously depending on the circumstances of the donors death). Then there would not be an issue that if a family member was compatiable, and healthy on the day, they could receive the organ.

My family know I wish to have my organs donated, I have been carrying a card since I was about 12. Like money and other pocessions, they are of no use to me in any form of afterlife.

do we have an opt-out system in the UK? i thought it was opt-in? are you in Australia?

I always would opt for a family member if the case came up as they also need less medicating to prevent rejection as there are more similarities between teh tissue types.I also have a heart condition and for this reason my immunosuppression has been changed 6 times with this current transplant as I couldn't tolerate them from a cardiac point of view and I have had no rejection of any description because of the changeover as my brothers kidney has been so well accepted by my body.Often if a drug needs to be changed the organ can reject.

no I am in the UK, I thought there had been talks of an op out type instead. Either way, I dont see WHY people do not donate organs if they can.

I think we have an op out system here in Belgium. Either way I'm not allowed to donate by virtue of the fact that I've lived in England and am at risk of 'mad cow disease'. I'm not allowed to donate blood either. That annoys me.

opt out not op out!

i personally have no objection to an opt-in, however i see the ethical issue. the state does not own your organs. i think that we shoudl be asked about donation on doc's forms, though, that would be easy enough to process imo.

i think they alaready are on docs form aitch.

By going 'public' this unfortunate lady has set back the cause of presumed consent. The BBC website has talk of 'stolen body parts' and other such emotive clap-trap.
I imagine there may well be a decrease in people registering, my relatives will continue to wait.