Why is Biden so reluctant to step down?

[Newsenmum]

I Still can’t understand why he won’t step down. He should never have run again, he wasn’t popular. Why did he? Surely he must know he’s going to make Trump win?

Im of an age where most of my peers are trying to persuade their parents that they need to move in to a smaller house, or supported accommodation, or stop driving. And in all cases the parents are refusing to acknowledge any reduction in their physical or mental capacity. I think this is the same in a lot of ways - he just refuses to accept that he is not the same man he was a few years ago. And it does seem that his family want him to stay - whether for genuine or manipulative reasons.

Age. Old and things are beginning to be more difficult and fail and doesn't want to admit it .

No, they weren’t. She was known for her devoted service and would never have countenanced abdicating.

Can anyone please explain why the party can’t make him step down, when so many are calling for him to? If it were here they’d hold a vote of no confidence and sack the leader, and I’m assuming the rules in the US are different, can anyone explain?

The only articles I can find list all the people calling for him to step down but not why it can’t be forced in some way?

That didn’t stop press speculation, but that’s irrelevant to this thread.

He’s not it’s all staged

It did - PP mentioned the press were ‘always’ speculating, which simply isn’t true.

He’s always seen himself as fighting and people not believing in him. He is still sour he wasn’t picked as dem nominee for the 2015 election.

Where do people get these ideas?

There was no 2015 Presidential election, and he removed himself from consideration for 2016 before the primary process even started because he and his family were mourning the death of his son and he didn't feel he could give the campaign or the job "110%". The Democrats were still trying to draft him, even created a PAC to do so - which was why he finally had to make a formal speech as VP saying no, he would not run no matter what. He may have been disappointed that he wasn't in a position to run, but it's wild to frame it that he's sore that he wasn't picked!!

I know so many people who are blaming her, and as I’m not too familiar with US politics I don’t know if there’s a reason for this or if it’s just plain old misogyny.

It's mainly misogyny, or in some cases specific dislike for and/or resentment of her personally for whatever reason(s).

Power, his family want to remain in power. Money and power and almost always the reasons behind everything.

For someone so invested in the royals I’m surprised you missed the press coverage but it was regularly speculated about how & when she might abdicate. A quick google will bring up loads of stories.

Even now there’s regularly pieces about whether or not Charles will abdicate and he’s pretty only just started being king.

It's not the same as a monarchy. The whole premise of a monarchy is that it's a position by birth, it's not a job. If the monarch 'steps down' because they can't do it it raises a question about exactly what the job entails, what skills are required, how to assess 'competence' at the role. The minute you do that you've undermined your own birthright and the entire monarchy.

Different culture and view of monarchy. QE2 believed in the divine right of monarchy and saw it as her role from God so wouldn't be able to resign.

As for Biden, resigning would mean admitting he wasn't in a good way and that is hard for anyone to come to. My own parent with dementia has never been able to accept that.

I thought they had to have regular medicals for a ‘fit for office’ reason too. But it now seems that it was a myth.

Thanks for this. 👍

Yup!

Stop talking about fucking monarchs on a thread about the US nominations!

People have expressed surprise that there’s no upper age limit to stand or no bar against a convicted criminal standing. But actually, there aren’t any such rules in the UK either. The difference here is that no one would vote for such a person.

What that says about American society/politics I don’t know.

I just find it extraordinary that someone with no political experience or a politics degree can stand for office.

Dementia, reminds me of my MIL who I won’t accept that there is anything wrong with her, despite wandering off for three hours because she literally couldn’t remember which town she was now living in.

I just scroll past the posts that I don’t want to read, Anoldcynic

Back to the thread:

I expected Biden to step down this weekend. There’s still time but Biden’s pushing it.

I’m imaging them in a room with him now telling him over and over ‘you’ve got to go Joe.’

The thought of a second Trump term is too unsettling. A pp mentioned a decline in Trump’s cognitive abilities that we seem to have forgotten about since Biden’s became so shockingly obvious. Trump barely finishes a sentence and his words wander in other directions so often I have no idea what point he’s trying to make most of the time. He’s pretty good with short sentences like ‘fight’ ‘fight’. But I’m not clear who it is he wants people to fight and why?

I’m not a US citizen but I’m dreading Project 25.

I’m old enough to remember when a taped recording of a presidential nominee saying he was a pussy grabber would have ended any aspirations to be president - now he’s running for a second term.

I wonder if the plan was for him to resign in his second term so Kamala Harris could take over and then run in her own right in 2028.

For all the cons of the Tories changing leaders quicker than I change T shirt, it was at least clear that our system gives that authority, as we vote for party not leader.

It feels too late to replace Biden, there’s no obvious candidate.

Have you ever tried to stop an elderly man who has cognitive decline from driving?
It's impossible! They won't listen.
There has to be an accident for anything to change.

That's Biden, but it's not a Corsa he's driving, it's the free world.

No one in power hands it over without a fight. History is littered with them.

Bluntly, the amount of racism and misogyny present would make Kamala Harris an iffy candidate at best. And there’s nobody else who could step in at this late hour.

Maybe our culture and our view is wrong then.