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EARTHQUAKE AND TIDAL WAVES IN S.E.ASIA WHERE IS LOU33??

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KangaSantaMummy · 26/12/2004 07:51

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE LOU33 IS?

IS SHE BY THE COAST?

THIALAND,

MALDIVES under water we loved them when we were there 3 years ago.

EARTHQUAKE AND VERY FAST TIDAL WAVES REALLY AWFUL

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hopefulmover · 01/01/2005 05:26

I took a load of childrens clothes to Oxfam yesterday and they said they had been undated with donations. They are normally happy t get them. They were very happy to have books/clothes just before Christmas so either it is just clothes they have too many of or a lot has arrived recently.

Although a lot of money has been donated already a great deal will still be needed to help people rebuild. And it shames the government into doing more.

hopefulmover · 01/01/2005 05:27

sorry that was inundated with donations

geekgrrl · 01/01/2005 06:44

Am lost for words. Spent last night in tears and I'm not usually that emotional.

karenanne · 01/01/2005 08:40

i have started another thread for the luton area for collections of items.my dad works for britannia airways who fly over to the hit countries ,theyre already collecting donations from workers and families to send over on the rescue flights .he says if any of you live near major airports that fly to these countries ring round the airlines they will be collecting and sending items over.
dad came home with a list yesterday of items needed they are ;

clothing-adults childrens and babies

dried foods

bottled water

baby items-bottles,nappies,powdered milk,dried foods,dummies,wipes etc

saftey matches and candles

old tents and camping equipment

blankets and bedding

towels

i hope this info helps

i am staggered by what these people have had to go through and now it seems they have rainfall and floods to deal with in some areas .HOW MUCH MORE do these people have to take .

melsybells · 01/01/2005 09:03

may be link that thread on here karenanne. Very good idea.

I cant seem to turn the news over, cant ignore it and watch rubbish nothing. Scenes being shown on Cnn now are so gut wrenching and frightening ,but cant stay away.

kkgirl · 01/01/2005 09:38

I just can't bear this. It is so awful to think that so many people have died, and a lot of the relatives won't be able to find them, it gets worse as the days go on.
Reading the list of people from the UK who are dead, is just awful, and that is a tiny number compared to the people who lived in the places hit by the tsunami.
I just want to do something to help. I will donate some money, and will try to help by sending clothes whatever, but my heart bleeds for the families torn apart by it, how they must be feeling, its tragic.
Wish I could do something to comfort them, their lives will never be the same again.

Lets hope for a better 2005

PuffTheMagicDragon · 01/01/2005 11:19

Can anyone give a sensible expanation as to why (unlike other European countries), our Foreign Office will not say how many British are estimated to be missing in this disaster? It's thought to be "in the hundreds". Why are we being less open about this than other countries?

Is it because if the real suspected death toll was made known, Tony Blair WOULD then have to return from his holiday. I'm not usually a cynic but ....Perhaps someone can explain why we seem to be out of step with our European partners.

JanH · 01/01/2005 11:50

It's just the way our authorities do things - they are always very conservative about identities and numbers and making statements, maybe because of the way the British press make things up. They will not add a name to the list of dead until a body has been positively identified and next of kin informed.

PuffTheMagicDragon · 01/01/2005 12:14

I thought it might be the due to English reserve Jan and I can understand it to a point. I think we all know that the news is going to get worse (as if it isn't bad enough already ).

PuffTheMagicDragon · 01/01/2005 12:17

Sorry, meant to say, it feels as though other countries have a clearer idea of potential numbers missing. However, I'm sure the FO are very clear, but as you say, are choosing to say nothing until information is definitely confirmed.

winterwarmmummer · 01/01/2005 12:18

I can't remember if it is further down this thread, but apparently they are waiting until each person has been identified before officially adding them to the list of dead, rather than guesstimating and getting it wrong. I think they are probably hoping that several people will reappear having been cut off from communications etc.

JanH · 01/01/2005 12:20

I remember after the Paddington rail crash the tabloids printed photographs of the station car park at Reading that night - full of cars - and claimed that hundreds must have died. In fact they mostly were either in hospital or at home, having made their way home by other means (I can imagine that collecting your car would be the last thing on your mind after something like that).

JanH · 01/01/2005 12:24

This is a sort of explanation.

Frizbe · 01/01/2005 12:25

Its also very hard to tell how many UK citizens were actually in the area, as they did the original missing estimates on the package holidays, which was grossly incorrect, as many people travelling are on charter flights, travel via boat, road etc, haven't necessarily come direct from uk, so its very hard to tell who is there, unless their families report them as missing.....

JanH · 01/01/2005 12:30

I mean there may well be lots of families here who don't know exactly where their relations/friends are - just that they are in SE Asia somewhere - and reported them missing, and then later not reported that they have turned up elsewhere. And there could be some who were in the tsunami area but went on to somewhere remote and - possibly - haven't even heard about the disaster or called home. It's only been a week - not a long time in eg a gap year - if you didn't know about it you wouldn't realise people were panicking.

JanH · 01/01/2005 12:32

And the same person could be reported several times by different people, but under different names or wrong spellings or something so it looks like several people...I think they are right to be careful with the numbers, actually.

sarahu · 01/01/2005 13:05

can I add sanitary towels to the list of things needed? that is what we have been asked for.

as for the british government not releasing numbers - the british embassy here first of all needs to get itself much more organised - we have given details of my friends family 3 times and they still haven;t got it right. i don't think that there are enough embassy personnel on the ground in the affected areas. the ambassador himself did come to school the other day though!

don't know if i should post this bit here or not, but here is some more information on how you can donate directly to the DIC fund;

Dulwich International College in Phuket, Thailand, is right at the hub of the disaster area in South East Asia caused by the earthquake and subsequent tidal waves which devastated such a vast area on Boxing Day.
Dulwich links with Thailand are very close. DIC opened as a franchise of Dulwich College London eight years ago since when staff and pupils alike have taken advantage of exchange opportunities with Phuket so the community as a whole feels directly affected by recent events.
The Master, Mr Graham Able, decided immediately to set up a fund to help the stricken people in southern Thailand with the knowledge that, with DIC as a focal point, we could guarantee that all contributions go straight to where they are most needed.
?Given our links with Thailand, we have opened a relief fund which will channel all contributions directly to relief and reconstruction in southern Thailand. We are already immensely proud of the role Dulwich International College Phuket is playing. The school has opened up its boarding houses to provide accommodation and a relief centre for those who have been affected, many of them foreign tourists who have lost all their possessions. A large number of the DIC staff are involved in this undertaking in Phuket while others have joined a volunteer force to cope with the very distressing situation further north in Khao Lak. Mary and I will be in Phuket for a week from January 8 th and I have already agreed with David Cook, Headmaster of DIC, that he will help form a committee to ensure that every penny contributed to the Fund will go directly to relief and reconstruction work. The Fund will be audited by our own Director of Finance and a full account showing how the money has been used will be made available to all contributors. Many of the parents of children at DIC have suffered major losses and face considerable uncertainty over the coming months. Thankfully we have no reports so far of any students, parents or staff who have lost their lives although many will have lost relatives in this disaster.?
If you would like to contribute directly to relief and reconstruction in southern Thailand, please make cheques payable to DCE (Disaster Relief Fund) and send them to The Bursar, Dulwich College London SE21 7LD. As soon as they are available we will also give details of how donations can be paid directly into the Disaster Relief Fund bank account.

happy new year to you all

OLittleYurtofBethlehem · 01/01/2005 13:06

I spoke to my mum about the disaster today - asking her if she would donate (as she rarely if ever has given to charity ) She said "well im not sure - Im worried the money will be misused by corrupt governments etc etc" "Oh well its such a big problem how will my money make any difference"

that my mum can be so selfish and uncaring - All she was interested in was setting up a trust fund for my ds and dd - not a jot of care for the 5 million displaced people or the however many who are dead

JanH · 01/01/2005 13:14

Happy New Year to you too, sarahu

Funny you should say the embassy needs to get organised - just came across this in the Mirror.

Gwenick · 01/01/2005 14:52

Hmm - the thing is Jan a) I don't trust the mirror LOL).

b) Many of the governments in affected areas have asked families of the dead and missing NOT to travel to the area. Most of the bodies now need to be examined forensicaly to determind nationality etc and having 100's, possibly 1000's of people 'looking' for their dead/missing relatives will (as awful as it sounds) simply get in the way and slow the whole process down.

As for the bit about insurance - it could well be true a) some people still foolishly travel without insurance and b) some travel insurance DOESN'T include injury from natural disasters etc....

suedonim · 01/01/2005 16:26

This article brought the tears to my eyes. It's amazing that someone going through their own hell can still have time for others. I've been following his diary for a while and he is one heck of a brave man.

roisin · 01/01/2005 16:32

Did anyone read Matthew Parris's column in the Times today?

It is quite unusual. What do you think?

Twiglett · 01/01/2005 17:00

I think its a sick article Roisin .. I hate the assumptions, theories and terminology personally

Twiglett · 01/01/2005 17:06

although I will admit after the first paragraph or 2 I skimmed it because I just didn't want to read what he was saying

Tinker · 01/01/2005 17:06

Skim read it. Hmm, interesting. I can see what he means although the timing is tasteless perhaps.