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600 people viewed a video of mother being raped on YouTube - none of them complained

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milkandhoney · 05/03/2008 19:36

A video of a young mother being raped while her children cry in the background has sparked calls for the site to be moderated.

A petition to ask the government to use its resources to find a solution to the problem of videos making light of sexual violence against women has been set up here:
petitions.pm.gov.uk/YouTubevetting

I would be interested to hear the views of mumsnetters regarding the policing (or not) of sites like YouTube - whether there should be some sort of vetting procedure and what, if anything, can be done, when horrific videos such as the one described above are posted.

Thanks .

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southeastastra · 05/03/2008 19:40

that's horrific.

something should be done, but i imagine it would take ages to vet each video loaded. for it to take 600 viewings before it's pulled is scary.

so something should be done, but don't know what.

Janos · 05/03/2008 19:54

What an absolutely hideous and cruel crime.

I reserve my anger for the perpetrators and their accomplices who frankly deserve everything they get.

However, I don't think YouTube are to 'blame' . As soon as they became aware of the video they took it down, exactly as they should have done.

Realistically, how can this be stopped?

TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 05/03/2008 19:55

That's very horrible.

I'm involved with a site that has live video/microphone and is sometimes abused by willy-wavers. We don't have permanent moderators but like, MN, we have buttons for other users to flag up anything obscene or offensive, other users can block the offender and then the staff will delete the membership.

I guess the problems with moderating YouTube, aside from the sheer quantity of material, is that the 600 people that viewed the video may have been purposefully looking for that type of clip. I can spend hours on YouTube but unless that clip came up whilst I was watching old Radiohead videos, I'm not going to see it to be able to complain.

This coupled with the recent reports about people filming themselves speeding etc might force YouTube to supervise their site more closely.

DualCycloneCod · 05/03/2008 19:57

link doesnt work

Wisteria · 05/03/2008 19:59

it worked for me

ratbunny · 05/03/2008 19:59

I don't really see how it can be policed, particularly if 600 people didnt see fit to complain. I dont think it's possible to check every upload.
but, there is video evidence of the crime, so the person who eventually deals with them in court should have no excuse to let them off, and should hopefully throw the book at them.
maybe a maximum sentence as standard to all perpetrators who post on youtube?

Disenchanted · 05/03/2008 20:01

Thats sickening

ladytophamhatt · 05/03/2008 20:02

link not working heer either....

charliecat · 05/03/2008 20:05

Was it obvious what was happening or did they think they were just watching a home made movie?
And how many of that 600 accidently clicked? or when they saw sex clicked back etc?

southeastastra · 05/03/2008 20:06

it's frightening that there are so many people about that will watch it. there must be enough youtube members who could monitor it more closely, though suppose that will take £££.

wannaBe · 05/03/2008 20:08

with sites like you tube out there there will always be content like this that makes it into the public domain. From what I've heard, you tube are very quick to respond to complaints about clips and are quick to remove them if necessary.

I don't honestly see how you can police a site like that, and seriosly what do people actually expect the government to do about it? .

And it could be argued that the fact these videoes are being posted on sites like you tube mean that people will potentially brought to justice that wouldn't otherwise have been. Would that woman have reported the rape to the police? or would she have kept quiet for fear of the consequences?

rantinghousewife · 05/03/2008 20:12

I think that's horrific but, as others have said it's probably not realistic to expect that Youtube could police every video that is uploaded. Although I'm pretty sure that there is something in the disclaimer when you sign up, that if you upload videos of a violent or sexual nature they will cancel the account. I do wonder if they would bar the IP address too.

ItsPotatoesForYouMyLad · 05/03/2008 20:12

omg. never look at youtube, but that story just made me feel sick. poor woman, poor kids

rantinghousewife · 05/03/2008 20:13

Itwould be interesting good to know whether they can pass that info onto the police too.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 05/03/2008 20:14

Honestly, that just made me heave. I'd've actually been sick were it not for the fact that I'm mildly emetophobic

AdamAnt · 05/03/2008 21:08

That is the most utterly sickening story

Carmenere · 05/03/2008 21:13

How the fuck did we get to a point in society that school kids think it is 'fun' to drug and rape a woman, tape it and then publish the tape on the internet

WideWebWitch · 05/03/2008 21:16

Fucking hell, this is awful.

WideWebWitch · 05/03/2008 21:17

Quite Carmenere

milkandhoney · 05/03/2008 21:21

What worries me is the way that people just shrug their shoulders and say "but what can you do?". Don't get me wrong.... I'm not having a "go" at anyone here, because I really don't know what decent people can do to prevent such happenings. I certainly don't hold out much hope that a petition can do anything other than, possibly, publicise this issue and perhaps bring the whole "debate" to the public consciousness. But surely there must be some solution, somehow?

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expatinscotland · 05/03/2008 21:21

i'm not surprised.

this is by far the most apathetic society i've ever lived in.

pruners · 05/03/2008 21:22

Message withdrawn

Mercy · 05/03/2008 21:23

rantinghousewife - yes it is possible ot pass it on to your community police officer.

Dh has done so. (far less serious crime and has been taken seriously, not as evidence though)

rantinghousewife · 05/03/2008 21:24

I didn't click on it, didn't want to.
I do still think they should pass the ip address of the uploader onto the police though. Can't they make them do that.

marina · 05/03/2008 21:24

Agree Carmenere the vetting of YouTube is a serious issue but a bigger one for me is how anyone could think it was acceptable on any level to do this to another human being
Every day seems to bring more news stories about how degraded our society is becoming