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Chris Kaba

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RaceWithChyna · 22/09/2023 20:49

The police officer who shot Chris Kaba has finally been charged with murder. It took a while after investigations had to be held but I’m glad the CPS decided to charge the anonymous police officer.

Before people start, yes he’d been in jail. Yes, he’d apparently drove towards officers at an attempt to get away. None of this means he deserved to be killed with an immediate head shot. To make matters worse, he wasn’t even the person they were after. They only realised it was someone else after the fact that he was dead.

I hope the family get the justice that they deserve.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-66865099.amp

Photo showing a smiling Chris Kaba.

Met officer to be charged with murder of Chris Kaba - BBC News

The 24-year-old was shot dead during a police operation in south London on 5 September 2022.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-66865099.amp

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Carebearstare12e · 24/09/2023 15:31

RaceWithChyna · 24/09/2023 15:05

You’ve put so many words in my mouth I’m actually shocked. This is the level of delusion that I aspire to have. Have a great day!

Nope.

You said "Before people start, yes he’d been in jail. Yes, he’d apparently drove towards officers at an attempt to get away. None of this means he deserved to be killed with an immediate head shot"

What words are you suggesting I put in your mouth?

MrsFinkelstein · 24/09/2023 15:31

RaceWithChyna · 24/09/2023 14:09

There was no weapon found in the car but okay!

The car that he drove at Police was the deadly weapon the poster you quoted was talking about.

BirdBox12 · 24/09/2023 15:31

@Carebearstare12e You are speaking a lot of sense.
This thread has backfired on OP who wanted us to put a pile on to the police.

Carebearstare12e · 24/09/2023 15:35

BirdBox12 · 24/09/2023 15:31

@Carebearstare12e You are speaking a lot of sense.
This thread has backfired on OP who wanted us to put a pile on to the police.

And now attempting to gaslight me that they didn't say what they said as can be easily seen by the previous posts, and that I'm the delusional one 😳

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/09/2023 15:36

‘murder’ has to be carried out with intent to kill. I think it is going to be very difficult for the CPS to demonstrate that the officer in question intended to kill the victim. I suppose they might argue that if he knew that the shot would kill, he should have chosen to go under the wheels, and either die himself or be seriously injured.

I don’t think you are going to get many people signing up for that deal , really. Maybe the OP’s friends and family will.

RaceWithChyna · 24/09/2023 15:42

😂 I have to laugh because how does it impact my life if you pile onto the police? What does that actually do for me and why would that be my intention?

I came on here as I hadn’t seen a thread talking about the recent update to do with Chris Kaba’s case. If doing that means that I’m trying to be anti police then that says a lot!

Again, people keep going into detail about Kaba and who he was, what he did and when he was in prison. I know all of that so you’re wasting your time. In that VERY MOMENT there was no reason to shoot to kill and shoot him in the head. I haven’t seen one reason why it was okay to SHOOT TO KILL. I’m putting it in capitals for the ones in the back who are struggling with comprehension.

Kaba wasn’t the target, Kaba wasn’t even mentioned in the police briefing which highlighted the car that was involved in the shooting. Saying well the police knew who Kaba was so with all that information provided, it’s obvious why the officer did what he did. Well, no. Do you think armed police officers know every single gang member in SW London? Do you think the officer who shot Kaba looked at him and thought, ‘I know who you are’ and that added to his decision. No. Kaba was not even mentioned in the briefing! So other than trying to ram the police with his car. what did he do in that EXACT MOMENT to get a head shot?

I’m not going back and forth with the same people, if you can see why Kaba received a kill shot then good on you! I’ll be back once the trial is over and the verdict has been given. In the meantime, maybe some of you should read the statement provided by the IOPC. I hope everyone has a lovely day😁

https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/news/statement-read-out-opening-inquest-death-chris-kaba

Statement read out at opening of inquest into the death of Chris Kaba | Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC)

https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/news/statement-read-out-opening-inquest-death-chris-kaba

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Poppyblush · 24/09/2023 15:45

You were not there in that VERY MOMENT.

you know nothing about what actually happened in the VERY MOMENT.

RaceWithChyna · 24/09/2023 15:46

Carebearstare12e · 24/09/2023 15:35

And now attempting to gaslight me that they didn't say what they said as can be easily seen by the previous posts, and that I'm the delusional one 😳

Have a day off!

*and were hoping to whip up an anti-Police thread.

And even if the Police officer is found not guilty you'll want it to be proof of a 'system' stacked up against a particular violent sector of society.*

Where did I say or insinuate any of that? I want it to be proof of a system? Wtf are you actually talking about?

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RaceWithChyna · 24/09/2023 15:47

Poppyblush · 24/09/2023 15:45

You were not there in that VERY MOMENT.

you know nothing about what actually happened in the VERY MOMENT.

And neither was anyone on this thread. I’m speaking based off of the information provided to the public by the IOPC. What information do you suggest I go on until the trial comes around?

Thank you, bye!

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SnowflakeCity · 24/09/2023 15:55

You can mention who he is and what he’s done but the fact that he was shot straight in the head is something I don’t understand.

If you are being genuine then there are many, many articles out there that discuss why the police shoot to take someone down rather than aim for a random part of their body. It isn't something that hidden. The officer clearly thought that that Kaba presented an imminent threat to life. I don't understand why you are presenting it like it's all some big mystery to be honest. If you are clever enough to research Kabas previous crimes then I'm sure you are clever enough to research the rest.

DownNative · 24/09/2023 16:20

Danny Shaw wrote the attached image and put it in his twitter page. Over 18,000 firearms operations in a year and just 4 weapons discharges in that time.

Armed police are clearly not trigger happy.

We shall see what the trial holds, but I wouldn't be surprised if the jury concludes its lawful. Courts here and in ECtHR have concluded lawful activity by police as well as SAS in firearms operations for good reason.

BirdBox12 · 24/09/2023 16:21

It's very condescending and rude also to say that people struggle with comprehension. No, we just don't agree with you. That doesn't make us stupid or ignorant because our views do not align with yours.

DownNative · 24/09/2023 16:24

Forgot attachment!

Chris Kaba
Carebearstare12e · 24/09/2023 16:41

"Again, people keep going into detail about Kaba and who he was, what he did and when he was in prison. I know all of that so you’re wasting your time. In that VERY MOMENT there was no reason to shoot to kill and shoot him in the head. I haven’t seen one reason why it was okay to SHOOT TO KILL. I’m putting it in capitals for the ones in the back who are struggling with comprehension"

And as you clearly struggle with comprehension- no- one on this thread has said what you keep asserting, that it's 'okay' to shoot to kill. What many, many people are saying is that CK actions on that day were threatening the lives of Police officers and the public. And the Police officers had his significant criminal violent weapons history to make them believe that not only was he a risk to them as he was literally trying to fucking run them over, but he might be a risk to the public too.

In that moment it COULD BE that a police officer who was being threatened with being fucking run over by a convicted criminal who had been proven by their past actions to not give a fuck about the law or society believed that person could kill them (the police officer) or drive off and kill whoever else the fuck they decided to. And then everyone would blame the Police for not stopping it.

And in your pie in the sky idea about shooting out tires or body shots, they're still in a vehicle. They wouldn't have to intentionally kill a member of the public but driving in a car with shot tires while injured could kill many.

A car with no functional tires doesn't just stop you know. It can keep going. But dangerously so, so round the corner, particularly with an injured driver it could plough into people on the street. A Mum crossing the road with a child in a pram. An elderly person popping out for a pint of milk. Or plough into a house, school or church and injure or kill people.

So you can stop with the coulda shoulda, woulda nonsense as you've not had a known violent and weapons offender trying to mow you down while you're tasked with protecting the public. And you're not a firearms officer. Nor have you in any way considered what could have happened

If the officer is convicted then so be it but you're being a complete bleep suggesting the Police should have shot tires out or gone for a body shot when someone was potentially trying to kill them and shot out tires and body shots leave the driver still able to cause harm or death to other people.

SerendipityJane · 24/09/2023 16:44

One of the main points of information being that he failed to stop when asked several times. A point you seem to be ignoring.

I know a lot of women who would not stop for a policeman after what happened to Sarah Everard. Guess we're all fair game now ?

BunnyBoiIer · 24/09/2023 16:54

SerendipityJane · 24/09/2023 16:44

One of the main points of information being that he failed to stop when asked several times. A point you seem to be ignoring.

I know a lot of women who would not stop for a policeman after what happened to Sarah Everard. Guess we're all fair game now ?

Walking away from an officer will never require you to be shot in the head. If they need to detain you, you're handcuffed.

If you drive into an officer with a car, you can be shot. Because you can kill somebody. That is proportionate in that situation.

I hope that clears it up
Woman are not going to be slain in the streets

MintJulia · 24/09/2023 17:03

@SerendipityJane Yours is probably the silliest post on here.

No police firearms officer is going to shoot a woman for refusing to stop walking away. 18,000 firearms deployments and only 4 shots fired. Think about that. This is not the U.S.

No firearms officer goes out looking for an incident, the system of suspension, enquiry and having their ticket withdrawn is long winded and horribly stressful. Officers only fire if someone poses an immediate threat to life.

When is the trial? I hope for everyone's sake that this is over as soon as possible.

GasDrivenNun · 24/09/2023 17:12

Carebearstare12e · 24/09/2023 16:41

"Again, people keep going into detail about Kaba and who he was, what he did and when he was in prison. I know all of that so you’re wasting your time. In that VERY MOMENT there was no reason to shoot to kill and shoot him in the head. I haven’t seen one reason why it was okay to SHOOT TO KILL. I’m putting it in capitals for the ones in the back who are struggling with comprehension"

And as you clearly struggle with comprehension- no- one on this thread has said what you keep asserting, that it's 'okay' to shoot to kill. What many, many people are saying is that CK actions on that day were threatening the lives of Police officers and the public. And the Police officers had his significant criminal violent weapons history to make them believe that not only was he a risk to them as he was literally trying to fucking run them over, but he might be a risk to the public too.

In that moment it COULD BE that a police officer who was being threatened with being fucking run over by a convicted criminal who had been proven by their past actions to not give a fuck about the law or society believed that person could kill them (the police officer) or drive off and kill whoever else the fuck they decided to. And then everyone would blame the Police for not stopping it.

And in your pie in the sky idea about shooting out tires or body shots, they're still in a vehicle. They wouldn't have to intentionally kill a member of the public but driving in a car with shot tires while injured could kill many.

A car with no functional tires doesn't just stop you know. It can keep going. But dangerously so, so round the corner, particularly with an injured driver it could plough into people on the street. A Mum crossing the road with a child in a pram. An elderly person popping out for a pint of milk. Or plough into a house, school or church and injure or kill people.

So you can stop with the coulda shoulda, woulda nonsense as you've not had a known violent and weapons offender trying to mow you down while you're tasked with protecting the public. And you're not a firearms officer. Nor have you in any way considered what could have happened

If the officer is convicted then so be it but you're being a complete bleep suggesting the Police should have shot tires out or gone for a body shot when someone was potentially trying to kill them and shot out tires and body shots leave the driver still able to cause harm or death to other people.

^^ this

Bozly · 24/09/2023 17:46

Let's hope this brave officer is acquitted

Iwasafool · 24/09/2023 18:09

RaceWithChyna · 24/09/2023 15:42

😂 I have to laugh because how does it impact my life if you pile onto the police? What does that actually do for me and why would that be my intention?

I came on here as I hadn’t seen a thread talking about the recent update to do with Chris Kaba’s case. If doing that means that I’m trying to be anti police then that says a lot!

Again, people keep going into detail about Kaba and who he was, what he did and when he was in prison. I know all of that so you’re wasting your time. In that VERY MOMENT there was no reason to shoot to kill and shoot him in the head. I haven’t seen one reason why it was okay to SHOOT TO KILL. I’m putting it in capitals for the ones in the back who are struggling with comprehension.

Kaba wasn’t the target, Kaba wasn’t even mentioned in the police briefing which highlighted the car that was involved in the shooting. Saying well the police knew who Kaba was so with all that information provided, it’s obvious why the officer did what he did. Well, no. Do you think armed police officers know every single gang member in SW London? Do you think the officer who shot Kaba looked at him and thought, ‘I know who you are’ and that added to his decision. No. Kaba was not even mentioned in the briefing! So other than trying to ram the police with his car. what did he do in that EXACT MOMENT to get a head shot?

I’m not going back and forth with the same people, if you can see why Kaba received a kill shot then good on you! I’ll be back once the trial is over and the verdict has been given. In the meantime, maybe some of you should read the statement provided by the IOPC. I hope everyone has a lovely day😁

https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/news/statement-read-out-opening-inquest-death-chris-kaba

Kaba was driving a car at police officers, you know a bit heavy piece of metal that could kill them. What do you think they should do? Paint targets on themselves? In a split second an officer fired to protect himself and his colleagues, I doubt that in that split second he was intending to kill, he was trying to prevent someone being killed.

BirdBox12 · 24/09/2023 18:17

Really @SerendipityJane ?
That must be one of the most ridiculous comments ever made on here and that is saying something. How disrespectful of you and ignorant.

thatsabigtree · 24/09/2023 18:27

You're talking far too much sense @Carebearstare12e for the OP to comprehend.
Really some MN users make me despair.
And really @SerendipityJane WTF are you talking about?! You're making a tart of yourself with such stupid comments.

thatsabigtree · 24/09/2023 18:28

Twat not tart!

mids2019 · 24/09/2023 18:32

Any lawyers out there explain how this could be murder? There appears to be no premeditation, the officer was carrying a weapon lawfully, there was the distinct possibility the car was being used as a weapon to drive at an officer and the occupant could have had a weapon. The officer seems to have a hard split second decision . To my mind that's not murder.

If there was the possibility of murder why didn't officers on the spot after him?

The fact firearm officers have given in their weapons is indicative of the strength of feeling about this. Will the army do a better job as firearm officers?

Putting the police on trial is not going to help reduce crime.

tealfox · 24/09/2023 18:36

maybe the CPS are passing the buck to the anonymous jury? saves a riot perhaps

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