Page 10 | Chris Kaba

RaceWithChyna · 2023-09-22T19:49:04+00:00

The police officer who shot Chris Kaba has finally been charged with murder. It took a while after investigations had to be held but I’m glad the CPS decided to charge the anonymous police officer. Before people start, yes he’d been in jail. Yes, he’d apparently drove towards officers at an attempt to get away. None of this means he deserved to be killed with an immediate head shot. To make matters worse, he wasn’t even the person they were after. They only realised it was someone else after the fact that he was dead. I hope the family get the justice that they deserve. [[https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-66865099.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-66865099.amp]]

CagneyAndLazy · 17/10/2024 10:12

Oblomov24 · 17/10/2024 05:30

@CagneyAndLazy

"He tried to get away by revving forward and then reversing into a police car, but ended up wedged between parked cars, the court heard."

But Mr Little told the Old Bailey that the car was stationery at the time of the shooting and the victim posed no lethal threat, saying: “That account is false, we say, in parts, and exaggerated in other parts.”

So it was stationary, at the time of the shooting, as I stated. Which you disputed?

You've quoted what witnesses said - he was trying to ram his way out - but because the lead prosecutor argues against that you say "So it was stationary..." as if that's a fact?

Incredible.

Oblomov24 · 21/10/2024 17:33

Not guilty, the news says.

Oblomov24 · 21/10/2024 17:33

No surprise.

KateyCuckoo · 21/10/2024 17:51

The right result.

CagneyAndLazy · 21/10/2024 18:05

Absolutely the right outcome.

Jury obviously didn't need long to make the decision, either.

EnoughNowIThinkSo · 21/10/2024 18:06

Thank goodness that sanity prevailed.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 21/10/2024 18:12

EnoughNowIThinkSo · 21/10/2024 18:06

Thank goodness that sanity prevailed.

Indeed.

The police officer should never have been charged.

hattie43 · 21/10/2024 18:36

Very pleased with the outcome . The officer should never have been charged .

EnoughNowIThinkSo · 21/10/2024 18:38

I just hope it doesn’t give rioters an excuse to cause trouble.

CagneyAndLazy · 21/10/2024 18:56

EnoughNowIThinkSo · 21/10/2024 18:38

I just hope it doesn’t give rioters an excuse to cause trouble.

I can't imagine other members of these organised crime groups/gangs will need much excuse to go out looting.

Poppyblush · 21/10/2024 19:00

Good outcome, especially when you see the footage. But I bet people will start saying this is unjust and unfair…. What bollocks.

mids2019 · 21/10/2024 20:51

Justice has been done. I feel for the police man involved and the stress he and his family have been under for simply doing his job protecting the public and fellow officers.

MichaelandKirk · 22/10/2024 09:06

I saw the footage and the family making statements yesterday. It was interesting that there were no men involved in this. This man was up to no good. He was known to the police. He was trying to ram his way out of a situation and clearly didnt care who he took with him.

He was also going to be a Father. Decision was 100% right. What if he got away and dragged a police officer with him - would they say well he just panicked...

He was a known gang member. I do wonder if its the old lack of male role model that makes people go this way. There is no family life as such - just strong women bringing up these kids and it's not working. They are seemingly excusing the way he was and papering over his criminal history.

kerstina · 22/10/2024 09:18

Glad to see that the police officer was acquitted. I don’t understand why people mindlessly defend people like this .He didn’t deserve to die but the police officer did not intend to kill him. Perhaps people defending him would like to enrol as a police officer. See if they can do a better job.

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 09:37

I'm glad this case came to court and the public have seen it. He shouldn't be dead. It has showed the deeply seated failures of the Met that we all know about.

Donotshushme · 22/10/2024 09:40

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 09:37

I'm glad this case came to court and the public have seen it. He shouldn't be dead. It has showed the deeply seated failures of the Met that we all know about.

He's dead because he didn't stop for police and created a situation where the police were in fear for their safety and that of the public.

Should the police never try and apprehend violent gang members who they believe are a danger to the public?

MichaelandKirk · 22/10/2024 10:21

This man was a gang member. He was trying to avoid capture. His colour has nothing to do with anything. Why was he a gang member? Why are the women members of his family stating they want justice? Did they approve of his life style or just turn a blind eye to it? What he working or undertaking criminal activiites? Was even the Audi insured for him to drive?

He was a danger to the public.

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 10:32

"Should the police never try and apprehend violent gang members who they believe are a danger to the public?"

Eh?

Of course they should. Arrested, procedures followed. If they had arrested him and taken him back to the police station what would have happened? he would have been let go. Because it wasn't him, it wasn't him in the at car that they "believed was linked to a firearms incident the previous night".

"Not shot in the head, not shot dead. I value life.

CagneyAndLazy · 22/10/2024 11:29

https://news.sky.com/story/chris-kaba-was-gunman-in-nightclub-shooting-days-before-he-was-killed-13234555

How dare people - including his family! - try to portray this as some sort of tragedy?

I cannot believe his mother knowing what a terrible, violent criminal he was, trying to get an injunction to hide his appalling history from the public. Disgusting!

This vile individual would have gone on to ruin countless more lives.

Chris Kaba was 'core member' of gang and 'gunman in nightclub shooting' days before he was killed by police

Kaba was described as a "core member" of the Brixton Hill-based 67 gang, linked by police to shootings, stabbings and murders.

https://news.sky.com/story/chris-kaba-was-gunman-in-nightclub-shooting-days-before-he-was-killed-13234555

MichaelandKirk · 22/10/2024 11:40

The Mum tried to get an injunction to hide his past!! Says it all really. What kind of family was he in!

MichaelandKirk · 22/10/2024 11:43

To the posters defending this character. Would you like him and his 'family' living next door to you? Kaba dating your daughter? No, I didnt think so.

prh47bridge · 22/10/2024 12:07

MichaelandKirk · 22/10/2024 11:43

To the posters defending this character. Would you like him and his 'family' living next door to you? Kaba dating your daughter? No, I didnt think so.

I don't see anyone defending him. I do see people questioning whether the police should have shot him dead, which is very different.

As per one of my earlier posts, since 1990 nearly 1900 people have died either in police custody or as a result of contact with the police. In that time only one police officer has been convicted of murder or manslaughter in relation to these deaths. Some of the victims have been awful people. Others, such as Jean Charles de Menezes, had not done anything wrong. If we give the police a free pass on killing people because the victim was a violent criminal, more innocent people will be killed by the police.

I am not saying the police should never kill anyone. There are circumstances where it is the right thing to do. And, when forced to make a split-second decision, armed police may kill someone when, with more time to consider, it looks like the wrong decision. In those circumstances I support the police.

It is about getting the right balance. Holding police officers to account when they overstep the mark, but accepting they have a difficult job to do and making sure we don't undermine their ability to do it.

Loveinacandle · 22/10/2024 12:11

prh47bridge · 22/10/2024 12:07

I don't see anyone defending him. I do see people questioning whether the police should have shot him dead, which is very different.

As per one of my earlier posts, since 1990 nearly 1900 people have died either in police custody or as a result of contact with the police. In that time only one police officer has been convicted of murder or manslaughter in relation to these deaths. Some of the victims have been awful people. Others, such as Jean Charles de Menezes, had not done anything wrong. If we give the police a free pass on killing people because the victim was a violent criminal, more innocent people will be killed by the police.

I am not saying the police should never kill anyone. There are circumstances where it is the right thing to do. And, when forced to make a split-second decision, armed police may kill someone when, with more time to consider, it looks like the wrong decision. In those circumstances I support the police.

It is about getting the right balance. Holding police officers to account when they overstep the mark, but accepting they have a difficult job to do and making sure we don't undermine their ability to do it.

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Exactly this. If a Police office shoots you dead because they’re scared, is that okay? A criminal being chased by the police is hardly news but at what point does the police have the right to kill you. The verdict is unsurprising but I don’t think suggesting that he was a bad guy and therefore deserved it is the ‘gotcha’ that people seem to think it is

Oblomov24 · 22/10/2024 12:15

Thank you. That is exactly my point. Better put. I have never claimed he was a good man, I'm just questioning the fact he was shot dead.

thebigchangeishere · 22/10/2024 13:35

Seriously don't know how anyone can defend Kaba.

If he'd stopped for the police he still be alive. Simple. He'd be in prison but alive.

Thoughts are with the police officer and his family