The chief executive who oversaw the Letby scandal was stopped from running another trust by former staff who were “outraged and distressed” that he had applied, it has been claimed.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lucy-letby-hospital-chief-nhs-n6fh0vwgg

Very condescending. How odd.

Have a good day.

Once you get to a certain Very High Level job you become untouchable, there is a merry-go-round of hugely paid roles. Transfer in and out of the charidee sector willy-nilly. We are told they are highly skilled motivators/influencers, worth every penny for their ability to deliver at pace blah de blah. Grifters is about right.

So in short, no I am not in the least bit surprised that this fellow was able to coin in the thick end of a million quid in the last couple of years. Nice work. He will get some kind of gold plated handshake and a hefty pension, too.

This is the bit in the article which stood out for me. I wonder if there's a backstory?

This is absolutely sickening. Its corruption and ineptitude at the highest level. Those poor poor families.

Yeah it seems like there might be. Maybe there will a bit more info on this when the inquiry is launched.

It is corruption, they sound like a mafia sometimes in these reports. A mafia obsessed with gold stars and certificates.

The NHS has a well documented culture of refusing to admit to errors and thereby not learning from them. It has a deep culture of cover up and dismissing concerns which are raised. My own long personal experience of the NHS also reflects this.

We really need to stop lionizing this deeply flawed and problematic organisation.

Agree.

I doubt anyone thought they were dealing with a serial killer and one of the worst in Britain.

But they also failed to investigate when deaths and collapses occurred which weren't expected.

And apologised to LL for questioning how this always happened when she was there.

I'm glad people are asking difficult questions that make people feel uncomfortable.

If they'd asked them earlier then babies wouldn't have been murdered and tortured.

I don't think this is an NHS thing, it is a huge problem in all sorts of sectors.

Senior people often preside over a mess then move on to repeat it.

The difference is the outcome of failure in the NHS is life or death, rather than just financial.

We need senior appointments to focus more on values - honesty, integrity etc. - and also we somehow need less of a press release focus.

There is a series called 'bodies' on netflix made in 2006. Honestly reminds me so much of this situations it's unsettling! It was based on inept managers not listening on maternity ward.

The Wire US TV series exposes this brilliantly: from the police service, unions, education etc all far more focused on optics and covering their mistakes than being competent at their jobs. It's partly because people get promoted for being politicians rather than having integrity and competence and partly because it's the same ilk working as non-executive directors on the Boards of these organisations appointing these numpties.

It's been completely standard fir nhs management under a cloud to move around. For years.

Also forgot to suggest that you may join the conversation there or here! Cheers.

Hmm the doctors have a paper trail too (the email to Kelly). That should support their evidence and clear up any potential confusions around what was said, such as Kelly's claim she'd heard nothing about it and Chambers' of being "taken out of context". As usual, facts speak for themselves. They were notified of serious concerns and did nothing to address them. Someone upthread said there was no full investigation, I'd go as far as saying there was no investigation at all!

@FallingStar21 Until there is a personal cost, such as compensation coming out of their pocket, criminally negligent civil servants in health or policing will continue to get away with this, moving to other branches of their respective sectors.

£345,000 is an obscene amount of money for someone like this to earn, when people who actually do the medical work are paid far less.

no wonder the NHS is a disaster

I don't actually think it's too high for carrying the can in a big, complex organisation.

Private companies pay hugely more, look at pay in the water sector for example.

The issue is when senior people don't take responsibility to the extent they should IMO.

The OP posted an article and some news and then followed it up around 9 minutes later.

God forbid people take time to write a post to satisfy you.

OP thank you so much for sharing this information. In the article it states that he became a director at the Royal Liverpool & Broadgreen trust. I have a few friends & relatives working in this NHS trust and they knew absolutely nothing about this. They are making enquiries to see if he is still a director & exactly when he was appointed. But with the secretive and lying nature of NHS senior managers it’s unlikely they’ll be told the truth.

all eyes will be on nhs management now
ours has put out a statement reminding about speak up guardian which has been in post for several years

Thanks OP.

This whole case is, as well as shockingly awful to the parents and children involved, just bewildering in its managerial failures.

The next on the list to be scrutinised. I am very interested to find out what exactly went wrong at this level. Was it massive ineptitude or systems going wrong?

Is this how people post now? Just copy and paste news articles?
Why do people school threads? Where's your actual comments? MN can run the thread. @KateyCuckoo

A major problem in this country is a lack of accountability in senior management/ office. Make a serious mistake, no problem, just quietly move on to the next overpaid post. No questions asked, no explanation required.
I like the American system, named and shamed, and frequently led off in handcuffs to stand trial for failure.

@Urchina completely agree, as you say this is criminal and should be treated this way by the justice system. And money out of their own pockets. This kind of post and salary comes with great responsibility, where is their professionalism and conscience? Babies were dying right under their noses, for them to not even look into it is a total disgrace! Reminds me of the state of Children's Services, managers with fat pay cheques who do bugarall apart from continuously "learning lessons" while letting incompetent social workers run free failing children. At the cost of children's lives. I can't believe that after everything there aren't any major changes in this country. NHS, Social Services, police - they all seem invincible with near zero culpability.

To be honest I'm more incensed by Ian Harvey, who took off to France with a fat pension and allegedly made a comment about "they'll have to catch me first" and Karen Rees, who went to live in Wales and did a change of career entirely plus change of name, and is now denying part of the conversation she had with Brearey regarding her future accountability when allowing Letby back on the ward (iirc before the collapse of patient Q - Letby had no verdict given for the latter).