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Another dog attack ..cocker spaniel

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Ricco12 · 14/04/2023 20:40

Another dog attack and this time not a bully breed.
Does this just highlight that although powerful breeds do have the potential to be much more deadly that actually keeping any breed of dog with young kids really need to be throughly thought through by parents and is risky.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11972879/Mom-faces-backlash-keeping-familys-pet-dog-bit-three-year-old-daughters-face.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR2HXFDtxITHz3ccDwURMXy8LR99K0HzoSmIwBk1Ysd1iKjj_ZhWFCrWDEs#6nj37p2du8y

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Tulipvase · 14/04/2023 20:45

I completely agree.

But I also think that if one of the bully breeds had done that to the poor girl. She probably would have died.

FuzzyPenguin · 14/04/2023 20:45

I remember seeing this on tiktok a while back, if I remember rightly the dog was sick and lashed out in pain.
Agree it does show that any dog can be a danger if not “handled” correctly but i don’t think the girl would still be alive had it been a large breed so it doesn’t sway any argument for me, I still think there should be tighter controls on dog ownership especially the big bully breeds.

Ricco12 · 14/04/2023 20:47

Still every year hundreds of kids are being left with facial life changing injuries due to family pets.

Its not just about bully breeds, people needs to start thinking about should dogs be in the homes of small children.

I personally think no they shouldn't.

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TakeMyStrongHand · 14/04/2023 20:50

Yes! But not according to the Mumsnet jury!

RunningFromInsanity · 14/04/2023 20:50

It says the dog was in pain, tried to get away and the child continued to climb over it. 100% the parents fault and can’t believe she would put this on social media tbh.

As others have said, it’s widely known that any dog of any breed can bite, but if it had been a bigger, bully breed the child would probably not be alive. That’s the difference.

Xrays · 14/04/2023 20:55

Tulipvase · 14/04/2023 20:45

I completely agree.

But I also think that if one of the bully breeds had done that to the poor girl. She probably would have died.

This

Ricco12 · 14/04/2023 20:57

RunningFromInsanity · 14/04/2023 20:50

It says the dog was in pain, tried to get away and the child continued to climb over it. 100% the parents fault and can’t believe she would put this on social media tbh.

As others have said, it’s widely known that any dog of any breed can bite, but if it had been a bigger, bully breed the child would probably not be alive. That’s the difference.

It's irrelevant if the reason ..most dog bite because of a reason . Big bully breed normally because of neglect, there is normally always a reason.

The point is dogs are causing many injuries to kids , ALL breeds yet people are just focusing on banning XL bully's. How does this address the other issues of all these kids yearly being admitted to A&E with there faces ripped open.

That also need focus in the media.
Obviously it's great the kid wasn't killed but still walking about with scar face for life isn't ideal.
There needs to be focus on people keeping dogs around young children and how risky it is.

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GoldenCagedBird · 14/04/2023 20:57

Oh not this again

if it was a bully breed it would have taken half the child’s head off and she would have died as a result of her injuries

all dogs have the potential to do harm, and this was a dog in pain who was utterly failed by their owners and lashed out. Horrible facial injuries but she is alive.

trust no dog - but some dogs do more harm than others. It’s not hard.

drpet49 · 14/04/2023 20:57

RunningFromInsanity · 14/04/2023 20:50

It says the dog was in pain, tried to get away and the child continued to climb over it. 100% the parents fault and can’t believe she would put this on social media tbh.

As others have said, it’s widely known that any dog of any breed can bite, but if it had been a bigger, bully breed the child would probably not be alive. That’s the difference.

This. The parents should be prosecuted.

Ricco12 · 14/04/2023 21:01

@GoldenCagedBird I get what your saying but going by Mumsnet banning XL bully's will
Solve all issues around dogs and children but that simply isn't the case. The DDA has proven banning doesn't do anything so surely a different approach would work

What about banning dogs in the homes of under 5 year old kids. I'm pretty sure that would be way more successful at reducing injuries and deaths to kids than banning a breed.

Anyway guess it doesn't matter as neither will ever happen and thousands of kids a year will continue to attend A&E with injuries from family pets unfortunately.

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Twinstudy · 14/04/2023 21:04

If you're going to have a dog in a home with children you need to supervise them and not be a moron who lets their child clamber all over a dog that is in pain.

Plenty of dog owners manage this. Because it's not actually that difficult. It's really the same as teaching your kid not to run across the road or put their hand in the fire.

If you can't then absolutely don't have a dog. It's not fair to the children or the dog.

Eggseggseverywhere · 14/04/2023 21:10

The dm should be prosecuted.. Her dd was abusing that ddog. Prob not the first time. Ddog wanted it to be the last.
We have had 5 ddogs. Many dc. Not 1 has ever sat on one of my ddogs. Not one has pulled a ddog by the leg. Probably why nobody has been bitten.

Ricco12 · 14/04/2023 21:16

Totally agree. It's most likely always the owners fault a dog attacks a child.

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FinnysTail · 14/04/2023 21:19

All dogs, regardless of breed, are capable of biting. All dogs have teeth capable of ripping flesh. It’s what their teeth are designed for.

Not all dog breeds have the capacity to kill within minutes.

It’s very rare for a spaniel to attack a human.

There’s a huge difference between an attack by a spaniel than an attack by a bully breed. Lots of bully breed dogs are trained, by their thug owners, to attack and fight to the death. Such owners don’t own a spaniel - for obvious reasons

Eggseggseverywhere · 14/04/2023 21:23

Any breed being abused and in pain can bite.
I saw a twat today kick his black labrador as it had a go at my very passive ddog. It didn't flinch today
Tomorrow it could take his face off.
Biding it's time imo.

Windingdown · 14/04/2023 21:27

Here's the story in her words....

'He was very sick!' she said in one video. 'And tries to hide under the bed.. his hind legs gave out and he couldn't crawl away..'
'(Our) 3 year old daughter did not understand that the dog needs to rest today and not touch him... she began to touch him even more, sit on him and climb into his face and hurt him...'

She should have created a safe, quiet place for the sick dog and kept the child away. Poor child. Poor dog.

LameBorzoi · 14/04/2023 21:28

You are over - inflating the numbers. Serious dog attacks are very rare. They just seem common because the media loves writing about dog attacks.

Most dog bites to children occur because parents don't know how to read dog body language, or don't act to stop a child harassing a distressed dog.

Cars, swimming pools, and poverty are all far more dangerous to children than dogs are.

TeenLifeMum · 14/04/2023 21:29

I don’t think the ddog should be put down but needs rehoming for it’s own protection. Parents who let dc treat animals like this shouldn’t be allowed pets and that poor dc was failed by her parents. I love my cocker spaniel and he’s very tolerant but we waited until dc were older because that was sensible.

Prisonbreak · 14/04/2023 21:32

Agree with this!

Snoken · 14/04/2023 21:33

No, I don’t agree that no families with children under the age of 5 should be banned from keeping dogs. I am for a ban of Bully XL in any situation. This poor dog was sick and abused by the girl. He didn’t attack with the intention of killing the girl. He was protecting himself, not attacking out of viciousness. Children growing up around animals is a positive thing. This particular girl shouldn’t have though, and these particular parents has to take full blame for what happened.

Prisonbreak · 14/04/2023 21:34

Ricco12 · 14/04/2023 21:16

Totally agree. It's most likely always the owners fault a dog attacks a child.

Agree with this

flowertoday · 14/04/2023 21:36

As we have probably seen in the media today, humans ( parents) are responsible for the death or at least serious abuse - physical, emotional, sexual. Abuse of children by their families happens every day.

I am not saying that people shouldn't control their dogs. They should, and all dogs are potentially dangerous if not trained, controlled and cared for. I think the humans as ever are to blame here.

FinnysTail · 14/04/2023 21:37

'He was very sick!' she said in one video. 'And tries to hide under the bed.. his hind legs gave out and he couldn't crawl away..'
'(Our) 3 year old daughter did not understand that the dog needs to rest today and not touch him... she began to touch him even more, sit on him and climb into his face and hurt him...'

Another case where the adult human owner should be put down!

flowertoday · 14/04/2023 21:41

Sorry , terrible English. Meant to say parents are responsible for abuse of children all too often ! I think it is humans that pose a risk to pets too in the same way with awful consequences.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 14/04/2023 21:42

It certainly proves that idiots shouldn’t be allowed to have dogs.
Idiots don’t usually choose Spaniels though, other than that it’s the same old same old. Idiot not providing adequate care for either the dog or the child.