James Bulger's mother demands right to find freed killers

[suzywong]

as reported in the \link{http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtml\news of the world.

Should she have the right?

Discuss

they killed

I think they probably will be killed. I there are many peopl in this country who think they should be ripped to shreds... and someone will do it. The same way the mother recieves letters from people she doesn;t know. That's how she found him. And, she didn't need any help recognising him. I think they will be found. And,I thin there will be little punishment for the person who finds them.

I'm saying htis is right or wrong. just that it wouldn't surprise me any.

grr... meant to say "I'm not saying this is right or wrong..."

If, god forbid, that does happen, I hope that the perpetrator will feel the full force of the law as a result.

i think they expect to be killed and i hope they havent got kids themselves (the mudrering boys that it ) matbee then they will realise just how awfull it was what they did

Hmm Uwila - I think I disagree - I think some people are outraged that they are at liberty but to actually seek them out and kill them is quite different. I could understand the parents feeling that but I wonder whether they would actually be capable.

if someone did kill them they would get longer in prison than they did

what, uwila, you're not saying whether it's right or wrong to kill someone???

I hope that if aomeone does murder them they receive a full punishment to show an example to others that such cold blooded acts of vigilantiasm will not be tolerated.

Those two men have to live the rest of their days in the knowledge of what they have done. I agree with sophable that that in itself is a terrible punishment. I think it is quite wrong to assume that they are not aware of the enormity of their crime.

they dint get full punishment did they

They received the punishment that the law decided should be given. Of course people will disagree about whether or not that decision was right.

if you was her wouldnt you want to no where they where i would

They got the punishment that was felt appropriate for two ten year olds.

But nikcola -that is why there is a legal system so people cant take the law into their own hands. It's not about what you would want to do if you were her but about living in a civilised society.

yes i agree the punishmnet was right for 10 year old but ook at the life they have now all that money spent on them protecting them its not right

ok then if they where living next door to you dont you think you should have the right to no, just the same as if a pheodaphile (sp) was lining near me i should have the right to no they are more protected than us x

I don't know how I would feel if I was Denise Bulger to be honest. I may well feel that I wanted to tear them limb from limb. On the other hand, I have read some extraordinary stories about other victims of terrible crimes/families of murder victims who have dealt with their grief and rage in a very different way.

sm - as far as I know only one of them has shown remorse and come to accept what he has done.

I can't agree that living with the knowledge of your crime is punishment enough - why bother with arrest, court and prisons in that case - should we save ourselves a lot of time and money and be content that aggressors have to live with their crime? - I think not!

But nikcola - it is to protect them from people doing just what you said to them. I would be concerned about other people not them.

if they where living near me and my child i would want to no, why should they be protected

er JoolsToo, I am sure you know I was not implying that

Very difficult this. I am Mum of a 2 year old (also a James) and I know that if (God forbid) I was in this mother's shoes I'd want to do everything in my power to find and kill the perpetrators. However my highly emotional response is a prime example of being unable to look at a case logically or in a detracted way. which is why we have a justice system who as we all know doesn't always get it right.
However, we need to keep in mind that the perpetrators were children when they killed. This does not excuse what they did but may explain why it all went so far. I'm sure most of us can remember a time as children when we were involved in things we did not feel right about but were unable to stop (for whatever reason).
If I was on Denise Bulger's shoes I am sure I'd be doing everything in my power to find them too. When I look at my son and imagine it being him in James Bulger's shoes my feelings of anger overwhelm me. However, we have a justice system and for our society to remain reasonably settled we need to allow them to do their job in the way they see fit - who knows these men (as they are now) may actually contribute something to society now they are adults - something unlikely to have happened if they had stayed with their families.
It's a difficult one and I'm aware I am rambling.
Just so glad it's not me dealing with either of them and I take my hat off to those who have to put their emotions aside and maintain friendly contact with them.

Mandy

sm - sorry - I was thinking of your reference to sophable who did said

"i really believe that living in the body, mind and life of someone that is capable of torturing, murdering, stealing etc is punishment in itself and enough."

you weren't saying that - apologies