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Bhutto's Assassination a Political and Cultural Honor Killing

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Monkeytrousers · 30/12/2007 13:24

"Bhutto's Assassination Is a Political and Cultural Honor Killing

In a sense, the assassination of Benazir Bhutto is a political and cultural version of an honor killing. Bhutto was the first woman Prime Minister of a Muslim nation and she symbolized an unacceptably Western form of female ambition and achievement. She had attended Harvard/Radcliffe and Oxford. She spoke English?perhaps more fluently than she spoke her native Sindi or Urdu. She once dressed as Western women do. Indeed, many Muslim women from wealthy families, including educators and feminists, have done so for a long time. They cannot do so now.

I am suggesting that, as a member of the Ummah (or larger Muslim collectivity), Islamist fanatics decided that Bhutto was unacceptably and publicly too-Western, and they sentenced her to death for this sin.

Pakistan is known for its many bloody honor murders and other atrocities.

In 1999, in Lahore, Pakistan, Samia Imran was shot dead in her feminist lawyer?s office by a man whom her parents had hired to kill her. Her crime? Daring to seek a divorce.

In 2001, in Gujar Khan, Pakistan, Zahida Perveen?s husband attacked her, gouged out both her eyes, her nose, and her ears. He wrongly suspected her of adultery. His male relatives honored him for doing so. (A team of American doctors subsequently fitted Zahida with glass eyes and prostheses for her ears and nose).

In 2002, a tribal council in the Punjab, in Pakistan, sentenced eighteen year-old Mukhtaran Bibi to be gang-raped as a punishment for something her twelve year-old brother had allegedly done: Walking with a girl from a higher-status tribe. (Actually, he had been sexually abused by Mastoi men who sought to cover up their crime in this way). Mukhtaran Bibi?s father was forced to witness her gang-rape, after which she was driven naked through the streets. Amazingly, the gang-rapists were eventually arrested and convicted. Mukhtaran Bibi was given round-the-clock government protection. The rapists have vowed to kill her anyway.

Did Benazir Bhutto think that her membership in a historic dynasty would protect her from the war against women that jihadists are currently waging? Did she think that the government could actually protect her from such woman-haters who would vote al-Qaeda into power if they had the chance? (The fact that she was a political threat both to Musharraf and to the Taliban and that she might have functioned as a bridge to America and potentially to Israel did not endear her to those who killed her. The fact that she had planned to recognize Israel and had already asked for Mossad protection, could indeed have been the final nail in her coffin. SEE HERE.)

Bhutto was one of the ?moderate? Muslims for whom the West yearns. Muslim fanatics murdered her in cold blood and they did so in an exquisitely planned and choreographed way. Their willingness to die in order to kill, terrorize, and impose their ideology upon others is precisely what keeps other ?moderate? Muslims silent.

How far are the representatives of freedom, modernity, and human rights willing to go to end such terrorism? If we are not ready to do whatever it takes for as long as it takes to free humanity from the plague of fundamentalist Islam, then we must be prepared to convert, veil, submit?or die."

Phillis Chesler

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Beetootoyourself · 02/01/2008 20:07

she is tracking down the evidence - if it exists - and if she does she will let us all know.

Beetootoyourself · 02/01/2008 20:11

it is obviously all supposition btw but it will be interesting to see what comes out of the wood work - if anything does.

Monkeytrousers · 02/01/2008 20:43

Just that an Islamist agenda is to up the Muslim demographic in non Islamic and specifically democratic states and then fight for proportional rep in parliments/governments/etc for Sharia Law to be implemented in some parts. There has already apparently been an application for Sharia to be implemented in places of Bradford for example, not that it was successful.

This is only possible if women ramain chattels in their own homes however, denied rights, aducation and birth control.

The birth rate in the West is in freefall - crisis levels but within very oppressive cultures (to women) it is rising. This has inevitable consiquesenses. You will need to read the books to get the whole picture though.

This is how religion has always controlled demographics and hence, cultures though - and why the catholic Church still refuses to allow condoms in AIDS ravaged parts of AFrica.

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CoteDAzur · 02/01/2008 22:36

Monkeytrousers - Benazir Butto's assassination was not an honor killing, it wasn't because she was a woman. It was politics, pure and simple.

Muslims make up only 5% of France's population, a fiercely secular country where even the majority religion (Christianity) has no place in state/laws/schools.

I live in France/Monaco, read and watch news in French, and yet have no idea how you convinced yourself that Muslims make up 50% of French population nor that the French are "facing a constitutional crisis (...) as Islamists are pushing for shariah".

Please check your 'facts'.

Monkeytrousers · 02/01/2008 23:05

I'm not saying it was an honour killing, just posting a piece mooting the idea metophorically.

I haven't convinced myself of anything - just talking about others ideas. Read some Sam Harris or God is not Great by Hitchings to get the full idea - that's what I said.

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CoteDAzur · 03/01/2008 12:01

It is not a correct metAphor. There is no similarity. She was not killed because of her gender, she was killed because it looked like she would win the upcoming elections.

Also, Muslims don't make up anywhere near the 50% of France that you claim, and they are not at all trying to get Sharia into French constitution. Where on earth do you get those ideas from?

It winds me up when people use any excuse, no matter how unrelated, to bang on about how women are treated in Muslim countries, thinking they have "the full idea", no less.

Or it might be the nicotine withdrawal playing on my nerves (quit smoking four days ago).

FioFio · 03/01/2008 12:03

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Monkeytrousers · 03/01/2008 12:09

Well I will bang on about women who are abused in any country. Muslim or otherwise. I was posting off the top of my head, generalising about the arguments in the books is all.

And yes, ut might be nicotiene withdrawal too. I am with you there. last one one NY's eve and am demented with it!

They do say three days and three weeks are very important threasholds so stick with it.

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CoteDAzur · 03/01/2008 12:25

Last one was 31/12 afternoon. I am OK with not smoking but hungry all the time. Asparagus never tasted this good. I am going through boxes of chocolate.

Meanwhile, walking around constantly wound up. DH ia making himself very scarce

Join us on this thread, if you would like some support.

Callisto · 03/01/2008 12:33

I understand you now Monkeytrousers, thanks. I actually think that the way women are treated by Muslim (or any repressive) societies is one of the biggest issues of our time and the more we all bang on about it the better.

Monkeytrousers · 03/01/2008 12:41

I know it's tricky, as to ctiticise one culture can sometimes smack of predjudice - and some people will join the debate just to voice what amounts to racist preducices.

But then again, I am predudiced about the way Islamism treats women (but not just Islamism). I believe in universal human rights and don't think they should be given up for 'cultural' reasons.

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CoteDAzur · 03/01/2008 16:37

Define "Islamism"?

Monkeytrousers · 03/01/2008 20:08

okay, hang on. I am inhalating

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CoteDAzur · 03/01/2008 20:28

Define "inhalating"?

(that was a joke )

Monkeytrousers · 03/01/2008 20:36

?Islamism is not Islam in arms; it is a political creed that perverts Islam, just as fascism degraded nationalism and communism betrayed socialism...Islamism appeals to that part of the human soul that has always been capable of being drawn to revolution, violence and exaltation of the self through membership of the elect. There are aspects of Islamism that lend it the same appeal that seduced young men into the Red Guards or the Waffen SS, but there are also specific aspects to the ideology that attune it to the discontents and yearnings of young men in our time?Islamists believe in the reordering of society to secure total submission to a narrow, puritain and fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. They are conducting a civil war within the Islamic world designed to overthrow existing regimes, which they consider unforgivable apostate, and replace them with a single and unified Muslim state?Islamists believe that the sanctity and culture of Muslim lands are menaced and defiled by Western influences, from capitalism to feminism, which have to be eradicated. That cleansing process must be accomplished by suicidal violence, because in the words of Islamism?s most influential thinker, Sayyid Quib, ?the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on blood.?

This from chapter 1 of Celsius 7/7 by Michael Gove ?in Celsius 7/7 Gove ? one of Britains foremost writers and thinkers on terrorism ? analyses how the Wests approach to fundamentalism is destines to lewad to further atrocities?.

In other words then, Islamists play a zero-sum game, they are not interested in dialogue but complete annihilation of its enemies.

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Monkeytrousers · 03/01/2008 20:37

Inha;lating - getting sugar from a sucked smartie

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Monkeytrousers · 03/01/2008 20:39

doh,

destined to lead to further atrocities

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