7-yr-old killed riding quad bike ON UNLIT ROAD AFTER DARK!!!

[WendyWeber]

What were they thinking of???

I am not full of bile, I am stating a fact, a little child is dead because she had stupid parents who did a stupid thing.
I have no doubt they regret it and are in immense pain because of it, however it is their doing and their doing alone.
They are supposed to be the grown ups, they were meant to look after their children's welfare, they should have known better.

However I forgot that if you are not a tree hugging hariobo bashing fully paid up member of the mumsnet kiss your ares club and you dare to have an opinion that is not all PC and rose tinted glasses you get slammed for it, and branded a stirrer of a bigot or some other playground name calling.

However this is a public board, everyone i entitled to air their point of view, you do not have to agree with it nor like it, you do not even have to read it.

My point of view is stupid parents should be charged with contributing to the death of their little girl.
It was just the most stupid thing to do and by god are they paying the price for it now, I am sorry that I am not overcome with deep sympathy for them, they did not need to be in this situation.
I have had friends lose children through no fault of their own and I am sick to bits of seeing or reading about people who do not value the precious gift they have in the blessing of children.

kimi I supported you

Thank you kitty, I saw you did

Well I have said what I think, no point in keeping repeating it so I am going off to play with my children now, (best we can as we are all ill)

Oh god what a stupid post.

Anyone who can feel compassion while simultaneously being able to see that this was an appalling thing for the father to have done, is a "tree hugging hariobo bashing fully paid up member of the mumsnet kiss your ares club" who is PC and wears rose tinted glasses and goes in for playground name calling.

Because of course, callng people who disagree with you tree-hugging haribo-bashing kiss your arse club members, is not at all like playground name calling, no no, not in the least. It's only the other side who go in for playground name calling, you see.

Actually sleighbells that's not stirctly true you know.
I've seen plenty of rather unpleasant things said to the 'non pc brigade' . The irony of it often strikes me ,that those people who say they hate violence, are compassionate pacifists are very often the most vitriolic posters of all

I don't think you can mix posters up into one big pudding with a pre-packaged bundle of homogenous views!

What's not strictly true?

I was being sarkarstic...

sleighbells have I missed the point ?
Weren't you saying that saying this :"tree hugging hariobo bashing fully paid up member of the mumsnet kiss your ares club" who is PC and wears rose tinted glasses and goes in for playground name calling. kiimi was infact name calling and therefore no better than those she accuses?
I was saying to you that I have seen an enormous amount of nasty name calling from the so called compassionate, peace and love pacifists, far more than from those who are seen as non pc. So infact Kimi's comment is true really.

Ratther than MN#s getting personal to eachother which is easy to do sometimes i must admit lol. Lets all agree to disagree. IMO the parents are more at fault than anyone, they took unneccsary (sp) risks with their childrens lives and unfortunatly for the little girl she will never see another christmas as her parents were then negligent and never bothered to take her anywhere saying she was not hurt. Wonderful people!!!! I cannot have sympathy for them it is 100% their fault, they have deprived the little girl of life, the older brother of his sister etc and yes they should be charged with negligence and breaking the law. Children are not allowed to drive on an open road. I wouldn't let my son on a push bike on the roads it is far too dangerous, especially if I knew the road was dangerous at certain times. But like everyone else I am not perfect i just value my childrens lives too much to put them at risk.

It is so easy to pass judgement when you only know what has been reported in the press...

Whatever you think of the parents decision they will be beyond heartbroken by what has happened and I feel for them. Irrespective of who's 'fault' this was.

Taz then you are a better person than most. I personally cannot "FEEL" for anyone who deliberatly endangers their childs life.

Parenting is all about calculated risks. This was a risk too far imho.

i think the point is that while many of us are privately incredulous at what other parents may do, especially in circumstances such as these, some criticisms become rather indulgent and obviously self righteous. There is little point to them either. Yep they made a terrible judgement. Yep they're going to pay for the rest of their lives. And?

Excellent post, ruty.

Spot on Ruty

I'm not being indulgent or self-righteous. Just making a comment.

No you aren't nab. But gosh, some of the comments here are.

Thank you.

ruty ...AND.. a child DIED. Not just "their" child. sorry what is spot on about that? this child does not have a life during which she can "pay for" anything. It wasn't her parents' to lose it was hers. I wouldn't start a thread criticising the parents but if someone does there's no way I could find a way to defend them.

sorry NAB wasn't directed at you. candypandy yes a child died and IMO some of the criticisms here [not the restrained sensitive ones] belittle that fact.

SSSSSHHHHHHHHH you can't say anything like it was the parents to blame, oh no no no you will be crucified,

Don't speak your mind, tut tut tut

Well you can say what you want, but if you express yourself in a vulgar and insensitive way, you can expect people to express distaste for that.

I don't think one person on this thread has said that it was a reasonable, understandable risk to take, btw. Not one person has argued that it wasn't a bad decision.

and using self indulgent and rather hyperbolic language like 'crucified' kind of sums up the whole problem.