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anyone remember the murder of Rachel Nikel in 1992?

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JinglyJangly · 28/11/2007 16:15

it just said on sky they have arrested someone for it but I can't do links.

Anyone heard anything.

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Bubble99 · 28/11/2007 18:30

Yes. I was working at Parkside Hospital in Wimbledon on the day she was murdered. I arrived at the hospital for a late shift and saw police vans, police tape etc on the common, directly across the road from the hospital entrance.

Poor, poor woman.

NAB3littlemonkeys · 28/11/2007 18:32

Is on ITV news now.

Whooosh · 28/11/2007 18:40

Sorry but hospital is too good for him-so the bleeding hears may say he is sick and needs help-I think he needs something completely different!

Whooosh · 28/11/2007 18:41

Sorry "bleeding hearts"/Do-gooders.

JinglyJangly · 28/11/2007 18:45

I agree Whooosh I am sure there are some people that will feel sorry for him, i.e. the do-gooders.

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Desiderata · 28/11/2007 19:32

Oh, Broadmoor is not a soft option. They're maximum security prisoners, although because the state has deemed them 'insane, they're classed as 'patients.'

The man is clearly psychotic. How he got that way is in no-one's gift to know. I think people are born bad, but there are plenty of 'do-gooders' who vehemently disagree with me on that. Either way, I can't imagine that anyone feels the slightest sympathy for him.

And he'll never be freed, which is more than can be said for most ordinary prisoners.

Buda · 28/11/2007 20:21

Can't believe it was so long ago really. Seems much more recent. That poor little boy is now a man. My heart still breaks for him. Mind you - it sounds like he had a lucky escape.

mamazon · 28/11/2007 20:24

yeah i used to live in Wimbledon and was at school just round the corner atteh time of this.

there was a lot of saftey info given out in the weeks afterwards. NO ONE was allowed home alone, only in pairs. we were all forbiodden to go onto the common unless with our parents.

i actually saw Stagg (the guy they originally thought had killed her) in a volleys once.

turned my stomach thinking that he could have murdered someone and yet be out here drinking and enjoyong himself.

it seems he is owed an apology

Desiderata · 28/11/2007 20:50

A lucky escape indeed, poor lad. I guess this psycho had a problem with women and girls.

Either way, all very upsetting. It's such a gamble society takes when clearly disturbed people are allowed to walk the streets.

But if there was an easy answer, we'd have found it centuries ago.

JinglyJangly · 28/11/2007 20:56

mamazon - what do you mean by volleys?

Anyway, must have been awful for everyone at the time - I just feel sorry for Colin Stagg who is an innocent man - yet 15 years on people have doubted him.

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Whooosh · 28/11/2007 21:45

Broadmoor may not "technically" be a soft option but it is a damn softer option than the families of those poor souls have been given.....

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Desiderata · 28/11/2007 22:17

Yes, of course, Whooosh, but we don't have the death penalty in this country, so Broadmoor's about as bad as it gets for him.

And even if we did have the death penalty, he would not be executed. Even as early as the 18th century, people deemed criminally insane were saved execution. This is not modern political correctness. Not at all.

I am at odds with myself to say this because it's so upsetting. But the little two year boy did clear up a mystery for the police.

Rachael had a piece of paper, plaster or whatever, stuck to her forehead. At first, the police thought it was part of the murderer's MO.

Several years later, the little boy said that he had put a plaster on his mum's face to make her better.

edam · 28/11/2007 22:31

Oh desi, that is so unbearably poignant. Poor child (man).

Desiderata · 28/11/2007 22:39

I'm sorry for my last post.

It's been in all the papers, but it's palpably sad on any forum.

Most violent murders are committed by mentally ill people. Political correctness is keeping them on the streets where they patently do not belong.

It was deemed, twenty odd years ago, to dispense with the asylum. But mad people like to be in the company of mad people. Birds of a feather flock together.

The definition of madness can only ever by subjective by definition, but I do wish that care in the community had never been bloody invented.

mamazon · 29/11/2007 01:05

Jingly - Volleys is/was bar in wimbledon village.

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