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i feel both sorry and hopeful for the parents of the girls who may be found in the investigation going on

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zippitippitoes · 14/11/2007 22:37

..I can't imagine what it can be like but i feel for them

and wiil,be thinking of them

this is the bodies being being found from so long ago

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saltireflyingatHampden · 15/11/2007 21:56

Apparently the police are going to be demolishing part of the house to see what else could be there. Apart from not wanting to move back, how on earth would you get it back to normal again and how would you sell it?

I keep thinking of those poor parents of those girls.

expatinscotland · 15/11/2007 21:59

the other girl's father was so gracious in his message to Vicky's family.

saltireflyingatHampden · 16/11/2007 14:02

Police have confirmed they have found a second body, in the same garden.

mumemma · 16/11/2007 14:02

There's just been a news announcement that another body has been found at the house. Dreadful news but hopefully it will bring about a resolution for one of the families of all these missing girls they keep mentioning as possible victims.

wannaBe · 16/11/2007 17:40

so for the families concerned and that a sick bastard like that was allowed out in the first place.

This brings back memories of when they dug up those bodies in Fred west's house in Gloucester.

I don't know how you could possibly move back in though, and you'd never be able to sell the house. But cromwell street was demolished I think, because there was no way it could ever be sold.

I think they should bring back the death penalty for sick bastards like that - it's all very well to say they should suffer in prison, but generally they don't suffer do they?

totaleclipse · 16/11/2007 17:45

They usually demolish the houses of grusome finds like this, even changed street names in the past I believe.

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NAB3littlemonkeys · 16/11/2007 19:46

Oh God!

southeastastra · 16/11/2007 19:52

it's so grim isn't it. hope families can at last get some closure.

NAB3littlemonkeys · 16/11/2007 19:53

I wonder how on earth they have coped all these years and now to find out their child was probably hurt and killed by someone who should have been locked up...words fail me.

mumemma · 16/11/2007 20:45

Just logged on and saw that the news is that the body is Dinah McNichol - made my blood run cold but thankfully her father will at least know what happened.

How many more? Frightening how these people can keep these secrets for so long. I feel sorry for the current owners of the house too - they've had their lives turned upside down.

southeastastra · 16/11/2007 21:08

oh god, how sad

Elizabetth · 16/11/2007 23:08

I can't see how finding out that this is what happened to your missing daughter or sister or friend could give someone any comfort.

Those poor families and the poor young women and girls that he killed.

expatinscotland · 16/11/2007 23:11

i found it odd how the BBC couldn't show Peter Tobin's face on the footage of him coming out of that Reliance van yesterday at Linlithgow.

why not?

the man is currently in prison for the rape and murder of Angelika Kluk, a Polish student in Scotland to work and perfect her English.

she was murdered on church grounds and her body found buried beneath the church floorboards.

Tobin had failed to report to a probation officer for 11 months when this crime was committed.

MsHighwater · 16/11/2007 23:18

On the question of whether it is better to know your child is dead or not, I suspect that it depends on the family.

Mr McNicol, father of Dinah, said before the discovery of his daughter's body at the house in Margate, that they had been hoping the first body found was hers and later said that they'd be "delighted" if Dinah's body were to be found. The word "delighted" seems a little odd in the circumstances but I think I kind of know what he meant (as far as I can possibly know, which isn't very, I must stress).

I'm sure not every family would feel like this. Perhaps it depends on whether they believe the missing person is dead or not.

expatinscotland · 16/11/2007 23:30

i don't think her poor dad was a very good speaker. but then, who would be at such a moment?

he did say he was glad for Vicky's family, that he understood what they were going through.

well, he would .

Vicky's father is too upset to speak to the media at all just now.

he had to be restrained from going for Peter Tobin in Linlithgow yesterday.

MARGOsBeenPlayingWithMyNooNoo · 16/11/2007 23:35

The "not knowing" eats you up. It's horrible. To have had to cope with this state of limbo for 16 years, words fail me.

My aunt had to wait 3 months to find out about her missing dad.

zippitippitoes · 16/11/2007 23:36

i think being able to bury a child would be a source of comfort..well i hope so

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expatinscotland · 16/11/2007 23:40

i hope i never have to find out.

Tobin was in prison from about 1992 - after he raped and sodomised and then attempted to murder the teens in Portsmith.

But when he was released he apparently wasted no time returning to his life of crime.

mumemma · 16/11/2007 23:43

I don't think it's comfort but it's finally discovering what has happened after such a long time. The families haven't had a clue whether their daughters disappeared voluntarily or involuntarily and it must be agony to go on for years and years always wondering. The outcome is absolutely sickening but somehow it must be better to at least know. Dinah McNicoll's father apparently said he was "elated" and could now "die in peace" knowing his daughter's body had probably been found. Heartbreaking that he is 'happy' to hear this but in relation to what he's been through, I suppose that is what he feels.

I'm shocked at how many cases are coming to light - all these families left in limbo.

What a total bastard - couldn't he just confess now - he's going to die in prison anyway.

zippitippitoes · 16/11/2007 23:44

that was my thought can t he just say now

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expatinscotland · 16/11/2007 23:49

i wouldn't count on it, zippi.

he's not exactly a person of any remorse or conscience.

amytheearwaxbanisher · 16/11/2007 23:50

maybe it can finally bring those family some sort of closure the finally knowing what happened to their poor loved ones

Reallytired · 17/11/2007 13:32

What happened to those poor girls was terrible. Sadly no one can bring them back. However finding their bodies means that they can have a proper funeral and their remains be dealt with dignity. The girls' deaths can be registered and the families can decide what to do with their belongings.

I can't imagine how the families feel. Its not reasonable to expect them to articulate their feelings.

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