Israel demolishing Bedouin homes

[MissyB1]

Just watched the Channel 4 news account of what Israel are up to now with yet more land grabbing and destroying people’s homes. Apparently there have been Bedouins on that land since before the creation of the Jewish state, but that hasn’t stopped Israel from deciding to boot them out. Kids left homeless and not even water to drink because the Israeli army even tipped over their water supplies. Fucking disgusting. The tribes tents had been supplied by European charities and organisations after their last homes were destroyed. Israel are apparently breaking international law by what they are doing, and for once our foreign office have the the balls to tell them to stop what they are doing immediately. Not that Israel care though 😡
Why does the rest of the world let them get away with this shit???

Why does the rest of the world let them get away with this shit?

Perhaps we should sort out our own misdemeanours first? Why do you let the UK get away with shit like this too?

100% agree OP. But hey- you're complaining? You're clearly anti semitic.

I’m with you @MissyB1 It’s outrageous the rest of the world looks away and doesn’t see what’s happening..

I 100% agree with you. Israel and India are allowed to get away with far too much but I guess as they also hold back terrorism in their respective regions it’s really difficult for international organisations to question them.

The Bedouin are considered a key population of Israel and there is uproar on the ground over there but the Israeli government just won’t listen. There need to be sanctions but nobody has the will to apply them.

@GrumpyHoonMain

I 100% agree with you. Israel and India are allowed to get away with far too much but I guess as they also hold back terrorism in their respective regions it’s really difficult for international organisations to question them.

The Bedouin are considered a key population of Israel and there is uproar on the ground over there but the Israeli government just won’t listen. There need to be sanctions but nobody has the will to apply them.

Correct. Nobody will apply them because they are terrified of Netenhayu and terrified of being labelled anti-semitic.

Soon there will be no Palestinian territories left at all and all their land will have been illegally appropriated to so called 'settlers' who swell the ranks of Israelis and swell the size of Israel.

Perhaps in 100 years' time people will look back at the old maps and wonder how the world allowed to Palestinians and their lands to be completely obliterated.

Or maybe not.

It's not new - the soldiers do this in front of visiting diplomats and aid donors who have paid for the tents (in the case of displaced people), apparently. They DGAF. They're a nuclear power, hold the balance of power on the region and at the moment are highly hawkish which melds with the 'strong man' political landscape of the day. They're too politically important to say no to internationally. I'm sure there is a lot of internal displeasure at what is happening.

Hoppinggreen- You do know that when people say "I'm not a racist, but....", it is almost always followed by a racist statement. And it's the same here - you have managed to include a stereotype of Jews as rich and powerful, as well as calling for the only Jewish state to be destroyed.

I'm so pleased that you don't think you're anti-semitic - others may disagree....

the expansion into more and more Palestinian areas shouldn’t just be accepted.

Absolutely 100% agree with that.
I also agree that the fear of being labelled anti semetic keeps a lot of people quiet.

@Hoppinggreen

I don’t agree I did not say “all Jews are” anything, I said there was a powerful lobby and I stand by that. One of the reasons The US entered WW2 was due to pressure from wealthy Jewish financiers and industrialists if I remember my history correctly from Uni. And I absolutely stand by my opinion that Israel should not exist in its present form and location - nowhere have I called for the destruction of anything. Israel does exist and so there’s nothing to be done about that but the expansion into more and more Palestinian areas shouldn’t just be accepted. I am not anti Semitic but I don’t support Israel and the accusation is a way of silencing anyone criticising Israel’s actions and why too many people just accept them.

I think you might find it was Hitler who believed that the US entered WW2 due to the Jewish lobby.

I think people would be less inclined to rule this as anti semitic if people got equally worked up about other land grabs etc the treatment of the Bedouin is disgraceful but so is the much much worse treatment of uighurs, but because China is too big to deal with nothing is said by UN because China will veto. Israel is not behaving well but its not the worst country in the world it is the disproportionatel way UN motions condemn Israel when not condemning far far worse things elsewhere

I think the Pearl Harbour attack may have had a teensy weensy effect as well....

@samG76

I think the Pearl Harbour attack may have had a teensy weensy effect as well....

Aside from the fact that it was actually Germany that declared war on the USA!

I wonder where the pp went to university that she was told that the USA's entry to the war was due to wealthy Jewish 'financiers' (I have never heard of financiers ever being mentioned without Jewish being in front of it!). Sounds like something directly out of Der Sturmer!

It's really not hard to not be antisemitic when discussing Israel. Here's a helpful primer: www.adl.org/resources/tools-and-strategies/what-is-anti-israel-anti-semitic-anti-zionist

For example, Hoppinggreen's comments on the 'wealthy Jewish financiers' precipitating USA's entry to WW2 = antisemitism. Typical antisemtiic trope (cf protocols of the elders of zion) about Jews controlling media and the 'wealthy Jewish lobby'.

People with genuine concern regarding Israel and the future of people in the regon would do well to distance themselves very carefully from such statements.

crazyneighbour - Israel has gone through 4 elections in the last 2 years and may well be on their way to a fifth. If anything it is too democratic, rather than totalitarian. This sort of unthinking comment is what convinces a lot of Israel supporters that their enemies are motivated by something other than sympathy for Palestinians.

The Palestinians, meanwhile, have put off what would have been their first election since 2005....

@CrazyNeighbour
Indeed.
But separately, those who see no good in Israel, debate whether the country should even exist, insist it is a pariah state and obsess about every thing Israel does wrong despite far worse abuses in other countries and situations should reflect on what is driving this.

I don't agree with the settlements - it's against international law and I think it's as bad for Israel as it is for Palestine.
But I would argue it's hardly the most egregious flouting of human rights.
I think BDS is anti-semitic even though those who might support some of its actions are not necessarily (but many are). BDS is not just about settlements, its aims are far wider. Its about eliminating Israel's very existence. This is why I think it is anti-semitic.
Omar Barghouti, the co-founder of the BDS, has openly said he opposes any Jewish state at all.

Anyway, the whole BDS thing is all for show and kind of misses the point of what the Israeli economy is based on. You can boycott dates, oranges and sodastream if you like but that's a teeny tiny part of the economy. It's intellectual property, biotechnology, pharma, medical equipment, cut diamonds - those are the drivers of the Israeli economy. And no one, not even the most rabid Israel hater, is going to hospital and demanding to know the origin of their equipment and medication. If the Arab boycott, which lasted until the 1990s and kept A TON of brands out of Israel, didn't work, I don't know why BDS thinks it will.

@kirlali

To answer your last question, because Europeans rounded up, deported and murdered two thirds of world Jewry in WW2.

Which was not the fault of the Palestinians and not a reason to mistreat them.

That's total rubbish.

Israel is 'allowed to get away with it' in the same way that many many countries 'get away with it'. Such is the world we live in. The Palestinians have hardly done themselves many favours along the way either.