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Petition for responsible journalism

38 replies

CassandraMT · 31/10/2007 14:45

here

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mindalina · 31/10/2007 14:56

Yeah I'll sign that.

pagwatch · 31/10/2007 15:00

moronify .
So... the papers make otherwise intelligent people into morons.
Not... morons make crap newspapers popular..

CassandraMT · 31/10/2007 15:51

No, just that it may contribute to the moronic justification of bullying, as on the other thread

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pagwatch · 31/10/2007 16:39

I like the intent, I really do, but it will never work.
The papers will print junk and others will buy it.
And people will do everything in their power to become famous and then be surprised when it bites them. And others will happily sell a story about them for more than a few peices of silver and so it goes.
My sympathy for Heather Mills is sketchy. My sympathy for people who suddenly find themselves in a big news story is immense.

I teach my children to consider what they read and to try and read news rather than gossip.I think that is the best thing i can do.

PeachyFleshCrawlingWithBugs · 31/10/2007 16:53

There are a variety of papers and they mostly come from the same stables.

One has a choice whether to buy the Sun or the Independent (for example), and the way the publishers work, the only thing that will affect them is people choosing to buy alternatives.

MrsArchieTheScaryInventor · 31/10/2007 17:09

Moronify?? FFS!! You can tell that one comes from Heather Mills!

I'm not signing it. If you don't like the papers then don't read/buy them and as far as I'm aware the laws of libel and slander are still alive and well in this country.

Hallowedam · 31/10/2007 17:13

Is this Heather Mills' idea? That would be the woman who pretended she was the respected journalist of the same name, then....

Monkeytrousers · 31/10/2007 20:01

That is the point of her protest, the courts have found in her favour, but do you, and others like you, know that?

Edam, that is adhominem; attack the argument not the person

Hallowedam · 31/10/2007 22:15

Oh for heaven's sake, don't be so school-marmish! The woman was an imposter.

I don't trust a word that comes out of Jeffrey Archer's mouth, because he has form. Same with HMMc or whatever she calls herself these days.

Hallowedam · 31/10/2007 22:17

I mean, talk about flaming cheek!

Heathcliffscathy · 31/10/2007 22:18

JEEESUUSCHRIST

ALMIGHTY

moronify.

a one word reason for not signing anything that contains said word.

LyraSilvertongue · 31/10/2007 22:20

This petition is pointless. Who will it be sent to? Newspaper editors would chuck it straight in the bin.

RosaTransylvania · 31/10/2007 22:27

And the point of this petition is?

LyraSilvertongue · 31/10/2007 22:32

There is no point. It's not going to change a damn thing.

Monkeytrousers · 01/11/2007 00:15

Why is that?

LyraSilvertongue · 01/11/2007 08:55

As i said in my earlier post, monkeytrousers:

'Who will it be sent to? Newspaper editors would chuck it straight in the bin.'

whomovedmychocolate · 01/11/2007 08:56

ROFL- I was a journalist for over a decade. This sort of stuff gives up a right giggle!

whomovedmychocolate · 01/11/2007 08:59

Sorry still chortling while reading this site. Quite impressed that a grown-up woman needs her sister to campaign for her rights when she has put herself in the public eye.

Tell you what, I'll become a celebrity, the Sun can be mean to me and I'll take comfort from the money, the adoration (limited) and all that and she can go ahead and wipe my daughter's bum and grout the floor.

artichokes · 01/11/2007 09:05

I agree the petition is useless and will if sent to Editors will go straight to recycling. However, I do think there is a real issue with all our news providers focusing more and more on "soft" news and gossip. Reporting the mishaps of celebs is so much cheaper than real investigative journalism. Bid media companies are currently cutting their budgets as more and more news outlets mean more and more competition.

IMO there are various routes that campaigns should follow to protect high quality news: Encourage the Government to give the Press Complaints Commission real teeth. Expand its role so that there is an overarching body to monitor the training of journalists and encourage best practice; Get media literacy made part of the National Curriculum. Children need to be taught to be discerning in the media they consume; Encourage the BBC to review its plans to trim news budgets. It is the one organisation that does not have to play in the market, and cater to the lowest common denominator; Encourage Ofcom, the broadcast regulator, to adandon its plan to loosen the requirements for Channels 3,4 and 5 to provide high quality, prime time, local and national news.

LyraSilvertongue · 01/11/2007 09:07

The PCC has got big enough teeth as it is imo.

furrycat · 01/11/2007 09:09

What does this petition mean? It's so vague and worthy it's just ridiculous. We have a free press in this country and that's a good thing. If you don't like a paper, don't buy it. Newspapers reflect what people think and give them what they want - or they'd go bust.

LyraSilvertongue · 01/11/2007 09:10

The fact is, newspapers will print what their readers demand. DP's paper sells xx amount when Britney Spears is on the front page and much less when politics is on the front. Newspapers have to make money so they're going to print what sells. The only way to combat this would be to get children more interested in current affairs so that when they're buying papers in the future, that's what they're gong to want to read about. Telling newspapers what to print simply will not work.

Scootergrrrl · 01/11/2007 09:12

Silly woman. Does she really think that will make anyone have more sympathy for her? Perhaps if she just quietly went away and got on with her life, as she says she wants to do, then everyone would indeed forget about her.

Of course, she'd then lose the publicity she craves but that's another matter isn't it?

niceglasses · 01/11/2007 09:19

Shes got a point thought, aside from who she might be or how silly she might be. Newspapers get away with blue murder, there should be a curb. Just look at the complete crap, stupidity and hurtful mess the McCanns have had to put up with. Really, its not healthy. There are libel laws yes, but thery're obviously not working.

Freckle · 01/11/2007 09:28

I'm sorry, but we get the press we want most of the time. Salacious stories sell newspapers - ergo we (as in a large number of the population) buy them. If the majority of the British public wanted serious journalism, the circulation figures of the more responsible newspapers wouldn't be lagging so far behind crap like The Sun and their ilk.

I have little sympathy with HMM. She courts publicity and then complains when the stories don't make her out to be a saint.

I do have huge sympathy for ordinary members of the public who find themselves caught up in extraordinary situations and get on the wrong side of the press. It's not good talking about libel laws. It is hellishly expensive to bring an action for libel and mainly you are dealing with newspapers with unlimited funds and top-notch lawyers. Only the rich can afford to bring such an action.