Bringing Up Baby - U gonna watch ? (Healthwarning)

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Lots of chat about this last week - at the risk of being controversial I'd like to ask the question should we watch. On the one hand horrible (how could anyone let their newborn have cameras all over their house...) on the other hand interesting to see all these diverse ideas.
And just in case - here is the healthwarning as this is a genuine question for me ? Do we watch reality TV like this (and hence encourage it) or do we vote with our feet ?

I thought it was intersting in the follow up link I posted (although someone posted an easier way to get to it...cheers) that mum of twins was talking about how she cuddles and hugs the babies now and they are very happy. Why does she think it is ok now to cuddle them?

I understand the reasoning behind the 50's method at the time but times have moved on from that "baby needs to look after themselves as mum needs to help in the war effort" approach.

It is weird really that Truby Kings method is the 50's approach, considering he died sometime in the 1930's....I mean, he was born 1858 (I think) , surely that fact alone should make people wonder....

I have not seen any of the program, but am pretty horrified by what I have read about them and the video clips I have looked at. I am quite certain that had I have followed the 1950's method instead of my instincts when ds2 was born, that he would have died from the strain of his then undiagnosed heart condition. The guilt I still feel today for the times when I did leave him to cry for any length of time (he cried almost constantly from 3 weeks until his surgery at 9 months) is enormous. I naturally followed something similar to the Continuum method and I am really glad I listened to my instincts. I beleive it is one of the reasons my son is still with me today.

I also don't understand why people have children when they don't want their lives to change

heartmum2jamie what a sobering thought...hope your son is fine now

kkk I absolutely do question the mentality of the parents and the programme makers and CV and anyone else involved in this whole revolting spectacle.
I don't think it is any answer at all to say - you can't blame the programme makers, because the parents had free will.
what about the child.
what about people watching the show who might think that this is a legitimate way to treat a newborn baby.
I read a preview in the Guardian which said something like "could be useful for new parents to find the right way to survive the first few weeks.
I seriously hope not.

Tonights program.....those poor babies being forced fed

That CV woman has a very weird outlook on breastfeeding, how she can compare it to a man dropping his trousers I don't know

And tonight the idea is to get the babies "absolutely shattered and very hungry."

Why? Why does this need to be the case? Stupid stupid woman, Clare Verity.

Sleeping through the night is, IMHO, a silly concept imposed upon babies who simply cannot do it. It's unnatural. Of course there are few who can but genereally speaking, they wake often. Get over it and deal with it. We all do.

Grrrrrrr.

ibroughtcake, I know! I had to admire the patience of the Continuum woman! I would have slapped her! ( Claire Verity)
Did you notice as well, how at one point they showed the twins in their cots with the voiceover saying "Some experts think that sleeping in the same room may reduce the risk of cot death" Bet they added that in quickly at the last minute!

I would love to know more about CV's own upbringing, that might help to explain why she hates "those manipulative" babies

why is CV so convinced babies don't need to be cuddled? what is she basing this on?

and why is the only mark of "success" whether your baby sleeps through the night?

I don't watch any of these daft programmes, I'd rather watch paint dry tbh, but what what I have read about this CV woman she sounds like a dried up old prune in need of a good drink and a good shag.

Unfortunately sleeping through the night is what most parents base success on. I remember when my baby was tiny and listening to mums say when there baby started sleeping through....you can't then help wonder when your baby will.

the sleeping through the night -good Baby....always got me....I always made a point of saying, no my Baby doesn't sleep through yet, but he is an incredible good Baby (well, didn't say it to often about ys, lol...as he was such an unsettled little soul ...but wiht my others).

DH actually sat through it with me last night...and even he, who is by no means a soppy soul and all goey about Baby's...even he noticed the forcefeeding and was making comments about Claire Verity etc...!
I thought Rani and her hubby were at one point really lovely (when he went through which rules he had broken, etc....), but made me double grrrrr when CV was back in their house...

Oh, I really do wonder what sort of impact that programme has on that childminders business....I would not want my hcildren in teh care of a CV convert, that things Baby's are evil manipulating creatures that must be taught to obey at all costs

The force-feeding reminded me of geese being fattened up instead of small humans being nourished. I was glad the Dad felt uneasy too.

The tragic thing is next week the TK method will be shown as affectively the winner as it got the babies to sleep through first....I wished they would do a follow up to these things as i would love to know the psychological impact this little experiment has had on the babas.

Eliza....I think there was somehting about fattenign geese up mentioned in that programme and by Claire Verity I believe...hwoever, I can't be sure if I haven't jsut imagined it, as that was how it felt and looked

Thought this might be interesting
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/01/nbaby01.xml

Interesting article
link here

3andnogore--that's interesting that he says that the holding made no difference to the inconsolable colic.

Eliza...btw...the link was to teh article sheepgirl linked, too...but it didn't work for her...so, I just did it in the short cut for toehrs to follow, rather then to have to copy and paste it into the browser...

As the holding and inconsolable Babies...my ys was one of those...and whilst I would still alwayys ratehr hold him, there came times were I had to put him down safely and walk away for a bit, as the piercing screaming got to much for me, and I found it very distressing to be unable to help my child in any way

THANKS, SHEEPGIRL!

I used to have a battery-operated swing seat. It was the only thing (apart from me holding her) that stopped my daughter from screaming with colic in the evenings until she was about eight weeks. She probably spent more time in that seat than she ought to but she obviously found the rocking very soothing. And so did I--I could put my son to bed and eat supper before resuming holding duties.

Lol I had one of those, also had a couple of slings and and and....he was unsettled and stayed unsettled until about 4 month, and even then he still was the most unsettled out of my 3 , he truely settled down when he was between 1- 1 1/2 years old....
Hence my usual mn id 3andnomore....I would NOT survive anohter one like that, and the children wouldn't either, lol....