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This has made me very very angry.

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RhapsodyandAshe · 30/07/2020 11:00

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8568833/Paedophile-Labour-councillor-worked-childrens-home-walks-free.html

Sorry for the DM link but this needs to be discussed and the decision should definitely be reviewed.
Just absolutely sickening.

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RhapsodyandAshe · 30/07/2020 11:49

I am bumping this thread as people really need to be aware of this.

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RevIMJolly · 30/07/2020 12:57

It is awful. But not surprising.

He likes to dress up like a little girl. He will get away with this. Men have been getting away with this for ages. Twitter allows men to talk about what age of children they like to abuse.

If you try to bring this to the attention of the wider population you will either be told that he is the victim or it never happened.

PerkingFaintly · 30/07/2020 13:04

There is another thread on this here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3982025-roger-spackman-former-exeter-councillor-sentenced-for-child-abuse-images

Looks like yesterday's previous thread got deleted for some comments, though it was fine when I last saw it.

I'm not suggesting you shouldn't start another, BTW, you just might be interested in the campaigning going on at the other thread.

RhapsodyandAshe · 30/07/2020 14:29

I did do a search but didn't find that. Will read now. Just so utterly wrong.

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HollowTalk · 30/07/2020 14:33

Roger Spackman, 50, who was a Labour councillor on Exeter City Council until his arrest in 2017, worked at a secure children's home at the time he started collecting the enormous hoard of images.

This is sickening.

He was caught with "over one million child porn images - including of 12-year-old girls being raped"

RhapsodyandAshe · 30/07/2020 14:54

I heard a visible intake of breath when I contacted the attorney general's office, from the person on the other end of the line and I told her the number of images he was found with.
The number is: 020 7271 2492 should anyone else want to call

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HollowTalk · 30/07/2020 16:38

Is that how complaints about sentences are done, OP? I'd like to complain, too - is it possible to email instead?

HollowTalk · 30/07/2020 16:47

I've found it www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review - the email link is on that page.

HollowTalk · 30/07/2020 16:58

Email sent. I'm getting angrier by the minute.

HollowTalk · 30/07/2020 16:58

@RhapsodyandAshe Should this be moved to Chat? It's rather hidden in this section.

prh47bridge · 01/08/2020 10:42

Looking at the case, it appears he was guilty of possession of images, not distribution or production. If he had been convicted of distributing or producing these images he would definitely be in jail. However, the current sentencing guidelines consider possession to be a lesser offence.

Given that some of the images were category A, the starting point for sentencing is 1 year with a range of 26 weeks to 3 years. I think he pleaded guilty at the first available opportunity so that gives an automatic one third reduction in sentence. The judge therefore settled on a 15 month sentence discounted to 10 months due to the guilty plea.

It appears that it is accepted by the prosecution that he was abused as a child which may have influenced the sentence. However, my view is that this sentence appears to be lighter than I would have expected. There are a couple of mitigating factors (no previous relevant convictions and previous good character) but a number of aggravating factors. I would therefore have expected a higher sentence. There may, of course, be other factors that influenced the judge's decision but do not appear in this report.

Without access to the sentencing reports I'm not going to comment on whether or not the sentence should have been suspended.

He will, of course, have this conviction on his record for life. He will never again be able to work with children.

Cailleach1 · 22/08/2020 18:20

If he changes his identity and sex on a gender recognition certificate, will this crime be attached to his new identity?

Cailleach1 · 22/08/2020 18:22

Maybe not to focus on him specifically, but for anyone with a similar history which as come to the attention of the legal system?

prh47bridge · 22/08/2020 20:25

If he changes his identity and sex on a gender recognition certificate, will this crime be attached to his new identity

Yes.

Kittykatty85 · 04/02/2023 04:15

every year I look to see if he’s in the news again, been waiting to comment in a while, I know a safe place is on mumsnet ive now got the balls to say it (probably cos no one will read it with the post being so old) I don’t want to do it on the media sites so it can be read. I did a Google search and this is one of the most recent posts I found you can comment on anonymously. anyhow what isn’t mentioned in any of the media is that this guy worked at the Atkinson unit in exeter for a year on night shifts 3 days a week peering through the windows at the lads and lasses every hour (in some cases suicide watch every 15 mins) by himself 1 other member of staff on duty at front gate he was then moved on to day shifts, he also covered the IT department in education suite, how do I know? I was there for 2 years as a resident when he was a member of staff there, what went on at that place hasn’t been in the news yet makes me shudder…..

Ormally · 06/02/2023 13:12

Re: If he changes gender and identity...
The crime would still be attached, and presumably found on a DBS check as a previous/spent conviction, which should speak for itself, but if the person went through a new DBS check, previous name or identity would not have to be included on it:
www.topsandaspirecareers.co.uk/transgender-dbs-applications/#:~:text=The%20Disclosure%20and%20Barring%20Service%20%28DBS%29%20offers%20a,of%20DBS%20check%20%E2%80%93%20basic%2C%20standard%20and%20enhanced.

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