Johnson & Johnson the new Nestle?

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Johnson & Johnson sues Red Cross over Symbol

wankers

hmph.
will take my business elsewhere

not that i dont mostly buy poncey organic stuff anyway

Oh ff fking sake. Total wankers.

I am probably petty but personally I wont be buying anything from Johnson & Johnson again.

This has got to be one of the worst business mistakes in history.

Sorry, if JJ have the right to the cross for stuff, and have had for over 100 years, and now the red cross start to use it on stuff they are selling, well they are riht to be sued, where it will deceided in court. But that's my last word, as I will now get shot down in flames.

did you put a sad face at the end so no-one would shout at you? like your work

yes, as you say, tis their legal right to sue. but c'mon now, its a charity using funds to sve destitute/desperate people... v a multinational making billions pa.

legal right, yes. 'right'? think not.

You can't own a fucking cross symbol!
It's like saying you own the shape of a square.
Big fat greedy wankers.

Are they going to sue Switzerland and their use of the flag as well. Or is it going to be Switzerland's turn to sue both Red Cross and Johnson & Johnson????

The two companies have shared the symbol amicably for more than 100 years.

No put sad face as I know MN, and if you don't boycott nestle and see the other side then you are shot down.

No put sad face as I know MN, and if you don't boycott nestle and see the other side then you are shot down.

J&J may or may not have the legal right (and bear in mind that the RC's lawyers think that, actually, they have a better case than J&J), but that doesn't mean that it's a good idea. Great big multinational suing a charity that's very popular in the US at the moment post-Hurricane Katrina? Not a great move PR-wise.

And the majority of posters on MN don't boycott Nestle.

what is the other side to nestle? that it's ok to kill babies because it's not in this country?[confused face?]

Oh FFS J&J are mad. Agree re Switzerland. It's like MacDonald's suing anyone called MacDonald who dares to set up their own business. Which has happened, IIRC.

I don't think you're shot down on mn if you don't boycott Nestle.

Agree, this looks like a very bad PR move as well as morally bankrupt behaviour. And it will cost the red cross money to defend.

Wankerage of the highest order.

here you go, McDonalds say they own prefix Mc

Well this is easier than the Nestles one - they don't make anything that I would remotely consider putting anywhere near my skin or my children's - unlike Nestle who make chocolate, making the decision harder. Their products are foul anyway so no great loss. Shit, just remembered I use Johnson baby powder for myself - will have to find an alternative.

One part of the "other side" is that Nestle no longer seems to be substantially worse than, say, Wyeth or Nutricia (granted, I don't think Nutricia make much other than formula and baby food, so they aren't really boycottable, and Wyeth are largely stuff like Preparation H, Anadin and Robitussin (and Prevenar, interestingly) so not very glamorous to boycott).

I like Johnson and Johnson. And I think they are right. If I buy exclusive rights on something, I expect the very party who sold it to me not to use it anymore. But, then I see the point that a big profitable company is suing a charity who is just trying to help people who really need the help. And that does seem a tad greedy.

But, it won't stop me from buying JandJ because I like their products and they are reasonable priced.

Hmmm, I don't think it's as clear-cut as all that. Many big charities are run like big businesses and suffer from corruption and the dishonesty/greed of unscrupulous individuals, just like any other large organisation. If the American Red Cross weren't using the symbol to sell products similar to those already marketed by J&J under the symbol, this dispute wouldn't have arisen.

I suspect both parties are utterly corrupt at the senior management level, so I don't much care who wins.

Oh, are they the same products in direct competition with J and J?

I can only see that J&J can benefit from having the same symbol as Red Cross!!?

I work for J and J, and I am surprised that this has happened, we are renowned for being a conscientious company.
Please also remember the j n j make products which may save your life, such as heart stents, cardiac instruments, othopaedic trauma etc, as well as making millions of people walk again following hip/knee replacments

But how can they possibly think this is not going to give them a lot of bad press Lilymolly?

How can they reasonably sit there make this decision and then not think that a lot of people are going to react negatively to it?

agree with you, its not really the best move to make....shall I send this thread to the MD

I wouldn't bother sending it just yet, this thing is going to take off, send it to him when it has gone over the 100 posts.

Although knowing MN if it does a Suzy Wong we will probably end up discussing sausage rolls fruit shoots and text speak.