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Johnson & Johnson the new Nestle?

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maisemor · 10/08/2007 09:14

Johnson & Johnson sues Red Cross over Symbol

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hunkermunker · 10/08/2007 23:35

Oh, and falsifying minutes from a grievance procedure meeting.

McEdam · 11/08/2007 10:52

It was, Peaches. This guy assaulted three women at a works function and confessed to a murder. Directors put the women through hell, repeated interviews trying to get them to back down.

My friend asked a policeman she knew about reporting the murder and was told the claims did sound plausible but there were real dangers if she reported it formally (to do with terrorism in N Ireland).

This man was never suspended. My friend left, eventually. The man was allowed to leave with no disciplinary action and given a freelance contract to work with the firm. And now is a trustee of the pension fund! Can only assume he had lots of dirt on the directors as he'd been there for decades.

PeachesMcLean · 11/08/2007 13:10

thanks both, that all does sound dreadful.

But without wanting to sound like I'm irrationally defending the charity sector, is it really worse than the bad examples from the profit making sector? Genuine question. Is there something inherent in charities which makes them more susceptible to bullying? I go to a few charity conferences and read the magazines etc. If it's a genuine issue, and distinct from what goes on elsewhere, it needs to be out in the open. I've seen a fair bit of incompetence, and met some fairly unpleasant people, but is it exclusive to non profits? What do you think?

McEdam · 11/08/2007 17:00

I don't know, Peaches, but suspect it's no worse and probably not as extensive as profit-making businesses.

mamama · 11/08/2007 17:11
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hunkermunker · 11/08/2007 22:01

PM, my experience was that you didn't need to be at all good at your job to rise to director level in charities (esp small ones) - you just needed to be pally with the trustees.

I know that had my directors worked in the private sector, there'd have been more checks on what their expenses said, for instance, but either the trustees didn't notice or care - and it's not their money or shareholder money - it's just taking from beneficiaries of the charity - and they were all little old ladies who were grateful for a couple of quid a week from the charity.

And it's all done with an "aren't we worthy?" air which began to turn my stomach in the worst way, especially when I was accused of not caring about the charity because I was called for jury service and felt I ought to go do it. These directors were taking considerable salaries, fraudulent expenses and making mine and my colleagues' lives miserable through a combination of ineptitude and calculated unpleasant behaviour and publicly, making out they were saints.

That's what got me - they were utterly disingenous and I saw what they were doing as theft, really - from beneficiaries who were, some of them, in grinding poverty. And, speaking to other employees of other charities, mine was in no way unique.

I would hope bigger charities were better.

McEdam · 11/08/2007 22:05

I think the Charity Commission doesn't work hard enough to crack down on abuses, tbh. When I've asked questions, they've not really been bothered. (On several occasions, to do with different issues, as part of my job.)

hunkermunker · 11/08/2007 22:21

They definitely don't, IMO and IME.

Your friend's experience was appalling, Edam. Glad for her she's out of it.

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