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VIP Paedophile Ring

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MyBeloved · 04/07/2019 20:29

[[BBC News - VIP abuse accuser Carl Beech claims friend was killed
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48871460]]

I have been following this story wirh horror. I believe him.

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Passthecherrycoke · 04/07/2019 22:03

“Edward Heath was linked to Haut de la Gaurenne....with his boat Morning Cloud..... and Jimmy Saville.

The list of names refers to Elm guest house. Google it.

Kitty is Cliff!

I believe him.”

But what does that have to do with the man on trial?

megletthesecond · 04/07/2019 22:06

Saville sounded pretty far fetched 15yrs ago. And it was all true.

ohpotato · 04/07/2019 22:09

What is this Teresa May losing vital evidence thing about - is that a fact that we can google or a snopes type conspiracy theory?

Asdf12345 · 04/07/2019 22:12

I think he should hang for his scurr on the reputation of many fine people. Fortunately you and I don’t decide and it gets sorted out through proper process against the burden of reasonable doubt.

DaisiesAreOurSilver · 04/07/2019 22:21

Tin hats anyone?

He's so obviously lying. Hope he goes to jail for a. Very long time.

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MyBeloved · 04/07/2019 22:22

Those of you who are absolutely convinced he is lying: why?

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ohpotato · 04/07/2019 22:26

Noeuf that article seems to reference shambolic record keeping rather than a cover up.

SouthWestmom · 04/07/2019 22:27

Yes you asked about it so I found a legitimate source of the rumours

ohpotato · 04/07/2019 22:28

Oh okay Noeuf - thankyou for that.

DaisiesAreOurSilver · 04/07/2019 22:28

I can't get my head around people believing such blatant bollocks.

Asdf12345 · 04/07/2019 22:36

I am pretty confident he is lying because the crown prosecution service feel there is a realistic prospect of convicting him for it after a lengthy and in depth investigation.

I won’t be convinced till it is demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt, but it’s hard to imagine he is innocent after all of his accusations were thrown out after equally extensive investigation.

SouthWestmom · 04/07/2019 22:39

The police checked all records and no incident was found and all kids of that name were accounted for.

I just don't believe he was thrown in a cupboard with a snake.

I don't believe a child was chosen to die and then asked to name a different child.

It sounds like fantasy from someone who is apparently a paedophile

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MyBeloved · 04/07/2019 22:56

I just don't believe he was thrown in a cupboard with a snake

Have you ever read 'A Life in Pieces'? The abuse the young girl suffered at the hands of the church, police etc makes you realise there really are evil people out there who would do this - and worse.

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Gogreen · 04/07/2019 22:57

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was all true...never stood a chance at getting justice going up against such big fish though...

“...never do anything by halves if you want to get away with it...make sure everything you do is so completely crazy that it’s unbelievable.”

prh47bridge · 05/07/2019 00:09

Those of you who are absolutely convinced he is lying: why?

Lots of reasons, not least of which is that, as reported in the BBC article to which you link, there is no evidence of the incident in which the boy called Scott allegedly died and everyone called Scott at his school has been traced. The police forgot to approach his allegations with "respectful uncertainty" and, as a result, spent a fortune investigating. They turned up precisely zero evidence to support his allegations and plenty to show they were false.

There will always be those who believe there is no smoke without fire, as we can see on this thread. But my view is that so many of his allegations were clearly false that it is difficult to believe that any of them were true.

Mammajay · 05/07/2019 09:02

I believed the vile things Fred and Rose West did..and the parents in America etc etc but not this man. With absolutely zero evidence there is nothing to believe.

Branleuse · 05/07/2019 09:55

I know someone else in RL who has similar stories about people in power and what was done to him as a child.

Branleuse · 05/07/2019 09:56

I have no way of knowing if its true or not but I do think there is a lot of corruption and chiild abuse going on, and there is no reason to think he is lying

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MyBeloved · 05/07/2019 10:05

But the parents in America and the Wests were not high profile politicians etc. Can it not be accepted that if these allegations are true, there would be protection around those involved and smears against the accuser?

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prh47bridge · 05/07/2019 10:50

there is no reason to think he is lying

There is plenty of reason to think he is lying. However, he remains innocent until proven guilty.

Can it not be accepted that if these allegations are true, there would be protection around those involved and smears against the accuser?

No. If there was protection the accused would not have been named publicly. Leon Brittain would not have died unaware that he had been cleared 4 months previously and the police would not have raided his home following his death. And why would anyone protect Edward Heath? He's been dead for over a decade, is not popular in his party and was not from a privileged background.

DollyTwat · 05/07/2019 13:03

Follow @MarkEatts_1 on twitter, you can follow the actual trial. Evidence so far paints a picture of a very deceitful and mixed up man, who set up false email accounts in the names of the boys he says were victims with him.

I believe something happened to him, but not what he’s said concerning all the famous people or even the army officers. The facts just don’t add up

AnnaMagnani · 05/07/2019 14:36

Agreed @DollyTwat I think he has been abused, I think he says by his stepfather - this bit probably is true.

However after that the only bit that is true is that he went on to be an abuser himself and a massive fantasist.