OMG. Anybody just seen GMTV? 3 yr old girl abducted on holiday on the Algarve.

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kate said reports just in, cant find anything on bbc.

bloody awful.

So, thingsmakeyougohmm, you're not blaming the parents and then you call their actions 'pretty stupid'?

And without bothering to find out the facts, ie that someone was going back every half hour to check on them?

Stop being so damn up yourself

So what - a £600,0000 house doesn't make them millionaires ! Believe me !

is that relevant mommajools

it certianly doesn't - sadly

??????the cost of their house means what?

I do find it strange that most people on here think it's wrong to smack a child, as per the nspcc guidelines, but think it's perfectly acceptable to leave a child unsupervised in a strange place in a foreign country.

It's just not the right time for the discussion uttermadness - time enough for that once she is found !

Christalmighty, a house in my rather run-down bit of SE London could probably sell for that.

noddy, i think it is linked to the ransom thing ie they are wealthy???

a £600,000 house doesn't necessarily mean you are wealthy though - it means all your money and all your income is tied into a bloody big mortgage !

Strange ideas !

not my idea.. i was just referring to an earlier post

I know !

exactly, a £600k house, relatively speaking, is absolutely nothing these days. They're hardly spectacularly wealthy, just well-paid, joint income professionals. I'd have thought they were targetted, if at all, because of dd and her looks, rather than because of their income. Bound to have been some City types there at the MW resort earning much more than a couple of docs.

FGS uttermadness you make it sound like the parents just dumped the daughter any old how.

BBC news is annoying me. They keep saying 'Police in Portugal have... [pause] confirmed she has been abducted'. I keep thinking they are going to say she has been found.
And that woman reporter they have there seems to be enjoying it too much, smiling away to the camera at the end of her reports and laughing about her weak portuguese with the local mayor.

i thought we weren't going to argue about the wrongs and the rights. I don't think it was a particularly responsible or safe thing to do, but this is more about keeping up to speed with her being returned safely..

I have been reading this thread and I am shocked by what has happened to this poor little girl she must be terrified and her life will never be the same again, I can only hope that she will be returned safely.

However I also think that this event is so shocking to us all, in a way it is a hard wake up call to all parents.I think people in this thread should be allowed to write how they feel whether it is being judgemental or non judgemental otherwise if we dont allow differing opinions then how do we learn from this.

But not now not when we still don't know wether the poor thing is alive or not or where she is.

God some of you are so bloody annoying and judgementel.

And FWIW, I oppose smacking because it has direct, invoidable consequences IMO. And it would be something I did to my vulnerable children.

Yes, you can argue that these parents did something directly to their own vulnerable children, by leaving them. But even if you followed that argument it would not have direct, unavoidable consequences. Their actions opened them up to a potential act by someone else - the person who is directly culpable in this instance. And the likelihood was amazingly low.

I think that any discussion other than hoping for her safe return is at this time, distasteful. Have some respect for her parents and save these discussions till there has been some resolution.

It is too easy to judge before the full facts are known. Please remember, this is an ongoing investigation, and the details will not all be let out to the public/press. Please also remember, this mother and father may be members of MN, and they may read this thread. I imagine they are going through hell enough without strangers judging them without knowing the exact story.

Please don't judge until you know the full facts. This could have happened to anyone, and if they were being watched for a period of time with a view to abducting this particular little girl, then I am horribly afraid they would have found another time to snatch her.

I can't believe people are wanting to discus how much the family's house cost FFS!!!!
It makes absolutely no difference how much money you have. If your child goes missing the awfulness of it all is equal. I've wondered why so many people want to keep chatting about this subject, but have come to the conclusion, that we all feel so helpless, and if we could, we'd all be out in Portugal searching for M. right now.

people were talking about the cost of the house in relation to whether there wil lbe a ransom.

Any more news?

Stayed in this very resort through Mark Warner last year. The deal with baby listening is not the same as in resorts run exclusively by Mark Warner. As said below, there is no baby listning as such, you have the choice of:

a) dropping kids with nannies in one of 2 creches, they sleep there in cots/blow up beds until you pick them up. Caters for all ages;
b) hiring a nanny as a babysitter;
c) taking your sleeping child/children in buggy with you to eat.

I never really saw leaving the kids in the apartment alone as an option. The appartments are actual holiday appartments (i.e. no the usual Mark Warner style suite of rooms) and so as secure as any appartment at home/away. Some are v close to the Tapas bar. But this is still comparable with leaving your kids in your house whilst eating with neighbours across the street....

UNLESS ANYONE HAS NEWS, OR WORDS OF SUPPORT THEN PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD DISCUSSING THE WRONGS AND RIGHTS OF IT. IT'S DISRESPECTFUL, RUDE AND ANNOYING. THANK YOU.