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Single parenet benefits proposed to end when youngest child is 11 rahter than 16

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uwila · 30/01/2007 09:56

Oh this will be popular round here.

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EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 20:43

that's not really fair JimJams, it wasn't meant for anyone like your ds i'm sure just people like me who could claim they can't work because of disabilty when in reality it just limits the kind of work i can do

brandy7 · 02/02/2007 20:50

aw jimjams

i read your posts about your ds and i can hear your frustration from your post

nikkie · 02/02/2007 21:19

OK I haven't read the thread 'cos when I started I started getting annoyed!
But can someone tell me what sinlge parent benefit as I have been a single parent for 5 1/2 years and never had anything?

brandy7 · 02/02/2007 21:25

well i get about an extra 50p a week on childbenefit for being a single parent!

its basically a thread slating single mums for not going to work, its all kicked off because of this new ruling that may happen about us going to work when our kids are 11.

not forgetting of course, childcare issues, sickness, no partner for support etc etc etc etc etc etc.

horrible thread

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 21:31

so lets lighten it up brandy and confuse everyone in the process! what else has your neighbour fallen asleep doing

brandy7 · 02/02/2007 21:39

pmsl!

he only told me last summer that he had it,he works dodgy shifts so is tired anyway but says he literally drops off anywhere no matter what hes doing, including driving.

he said he has to have plenty of naps and the doc has told him to diet as hes quite overweight, well actually a lot overweight. hes such a lovely bloke

i havent found him asleep in the front garden yet when hes been out there weeding

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 21:44

did wake up having fallen asleep whilst on the phone, 3 hours later

brandy7 · 02/02/2007 21:49

omg! do you have to take medication for it ellie? il have to tell my neighbour that ive met a fellow sufferer

is it pretty debilitating though, i mean do you worry that you could be at the park with son and you'd fall asleep or can you feel it happening. omg could you nod off when in labour! im being serious, im not taking the piss

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 21:54

i did
i don't take meds, is mild enough that i don't have to, they put me on them for 3 months but i hated it, as soon as they wore off i fell asleep, whereever, and had no warning. without meds i have to nap but i do have warning. and ds is fab, he's only 3.5 but he knows he just has to slap mummy a bit and then she'll wake up
can't have pethadine in labour, or the new-style epidural, and when they gave me codeine i fell asleep and woke up 18hrs later, to a newborn who'd not had a feed! they were not popular, my notes said in big letters DO NOT GIVE CODEINE!!!!!!

brandy7 · 02/02/2007 22:00

hope youll have a good birth partner then when your lo is born,mind you the pain will probably keep you awake

your ds sounds very sweet giving you a slap!
bless him, its amazing how adaptable and intelligent kids are.

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 22:03

that's one word for it!
and no, at the mo it looks like i'll being going it alone for number two [very scared emoticon]
so will just have to hope for a good mw! and no, i could sleep through anything, even the pain

brandy7 · 02/02/2007 22:06

could you really sleep through the pain or are you joking and thats with a mild version of your condition. blimey that sounds bad enough, must be awful for people with it really really bad then

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 22:09

i did sleep last time
the easiest way to explain is that when you get so shattered you think you can't continue, and then something happens that you need to deal with so you wake up enough to get on with it, i don't. my body gets to a point and just shuts down, wherever, whatever i'm doing.
and yes, i consider myself incredibly lucky to have it as 'easy' as i do, but am well aware it could well get worse as time goes on

brandy7 · 02/02/2007 22:10

has anyone in your family got it ellie?oops sorry loads questions!im intrigued as my neighbour has it.

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 22:14

it's not hereditary (sp?) but you do inherit a tendancy for it, in the same way there is a breast cancer gene but that's doesn't mean you'll def get IYSWIM?
I had a bad bout of flu in late teens and that triggered it, just never really recovered from the flu. i have a slow recovery to anaesthetic, and my mum, gran and little bro all have the same reaction, a known reaction of narcoleptics, so looks like it was passed down but they never had anything to trigger it. is usually known to show itself in late teens and bro is nearly 18 so we're just watching and waiting .......

brandy7 · 02/02/2007 22:19

so your boy could get it, and your unborn one also. hope not, you'll be worried like mad

im going to collar my neighbour tomorow now and have a chat with him.mind you hes working the nightshift at the moment so even tireder, he looked really exhausted tonight

oh shit ds has just woken, aghhhh, me need to run and do lots of back rubbing

nikkie · 02/02/2007 22:20

Thanks Brandy-DOn't think I get it though ,will have to check!

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 22:22

he already has my tendancy to be impossible to wake once he'd asleep! but not too worried, i'll recognise the signs early.
and tell your neighbour to quit shifts, i did and it was the best thing i could have done, been so much better since.
good luck with the back rubbing

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 22:26

don't think you will nikkie, i don't, was phased out before 2003 so doesn't apply but don't know if it was still applicable when you started getting cb, would be worth asking x i do get a single parent allowance on my earning for tax credits tho. basically this thread applies to single parents not having to actively seek work to get IS, whereas marred parents would have to claim JSA and be seeking employment to get anything

pucca · 02/02/2007 22:34

I haven't read all of the thread, would take forever

I have alot of respect for lone parents...and i see how my sil struggles who is on income support.

My "beef" is with COUPLES on benefits when they could get off their arses and go out to work, who in their right mind would not choose to sit on their bum? but it is about respect for yourself in this circumstance.There are very few people who actually look forward to going to work and enjoy their job but you do it.

I also think more should be done to help working families. Tax credits is the biggest joke going...wasn't this supposed to be to help working families? boll**ks!!! Atm we would be better off on benefits but we struggle on, also poeple who are on benefits, IS,IB whatever...who earn money on the side (ebay etc) really annoy me too.

nikkie · 02/02/2007 22:39

I have been a single parent since 2001 and am on TCs don't get single parents allowance from them?

EllieKwithabigbump · 02/02/2007 22:44

don't really understand it tbh, just know that i get more help than married friends. if they know you are on your own then you are getting it all, if they don't then tell them!

madamez · 02/02/2007 23:50

You know, one of the reasons that what you mail-readers complain about - the loss of a ';work-ethic', has happened is to do with the fact that there are fewer and fewer designatableclasses of people prepared to be treated like subhumans. It's not that people don't want to work, it's that so many jobs are unmitigated slave labour - minimum wage or any-way-we-can-think-of-to-pay-even-less, no job security whatsoever (and, of course, if you're honest and sign off benefits to start your new job, you'll then be stuck for about 3 months with no money if the job doesn't work out) and the sort of deal that's, Ok, we'll take you on but we need you to be available for work at any time with no notice, but there's no guarantee of enough hours to give you a living wage... never mind the number of jobs where you pretty much have to suck someone's dick to get your money - and by that I don't mean sex work. If you follow that career path properly, you only suck dick consensually and you get a lot more than the minimum wage.
There's always going to be a need for people to wipe the bums and remove the rubbish and sweep the streets - but now everythings been contracted and subcontracted to firms with cheaper and cheaper bids, all the people doing these jobs are paid less and treated worse that only the deranged will actually do them for any length of time. Yes, there are dirty jobs to be done, but it's possible to take pride in doing them if you're actually offered a living wage. Otherwise, why bother?

expatinscotland · 02/02/2007 23:55

' Or find a husband to support you '

LOL, Xenia! Please put down the Crystal!

So the glorified prostitution that is a husband supporting you has at last become a viable option to you, since you don't have to fund it out of your taxes.

Brill!

expatinscotland · 02/02/2007 23:59

Spot on, madamez!