Chilcot report...

[Millionprammiles]

Feels like a 'you're a naughty/idiotic boy but not a criminal' statement. Just enough said to make the public feel transparent scrutiny has been applied but not enough to ensure anyone is actually prosecuted.

But then what more could we expect given some of the subjects of the report have been given years to respond and decide what can be published.
And what of David Kelly (who's death wasn't part of the inquiry and who's medical reports will remain locked away)?

Still, its given us the bizarre spectacle of the Tory leader defending the past Labour leader whilst the current Labour leader attacks him (oh so that's whay you've hung in there Jeremy..).

Just seen (and heard on R4) Tony Blair telling us the world is a better place without Saddam.

Is it just me, or is this just a case of "the end justifies the means" ?

What can we do to get this monster to the International Criminal Court in the Hague?

Anyone have any ideas about how we could go about this?

What can we do to get this monster to the International Criminal Court in the Hague? Anyone have any ideas about how we could go about this?

In a discussion with some serious legal bods on Monday on R4, the main problem would be what he would be guilty of - a war of aggression - isn't actually a crime. I believe the UK ducked out of signing up to that clause. Even if we did now, it would not be retrospective.

The fact the question has been researched to that degree speaks volumes though.

We will have to be content with the fact that Tony Blair carries his punishment on his face - if ever there was a poster boy for a man aged by conscience, it's him. He will also have to remember his past wherever he goes - which will be a very limited selection of places.

Thanks Lurking. Yes he does look very haggard I agree and I do so hope he is suffering. But he is such an actor Blair, isn't he? Doubtless he's been extensively rehearsing his dramatic pauses, his down-turned mouth, his little stutters and faltering vocal affectations, all in anticipation of this day for years.

F*ing lying, cheating, war mongering scum bag.

The day it pops up on the news that he has been assassinated, I doubt many will be surprised. I wonder if that keeps him awake at night?

I wonder if there is anyone who believed those little moments of faltering voice and the "poor little me" display?

Am I the only person who watches the news at the moment and sees parallels with the (more snivelly, but I reckon from the same place) performance of Pistorius

The world may be a better place without Saddam (though with the rise of ISIS to fill the void, that's debatable). Its not a better place without the hundreds of servicemen and many tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

I wonder if there is anyone who believed those little moments of faltering voice and the "poor little me" display?

No - probably the biggest punishment of all ... The Cassandra who cried Wolf

The world may be a better place without Saddam (though with the rise of ISIS

Hold onto nurse for fear of finding something worse ?

No chance of her sword accidentally slipping. By convention, it's a peerage for PMs. Be difficult to refuse as it looks like he hasn't technically committed any criminal offence, slippery bugger. He hasn't been made a Knight of the Garter as both Baroness Thatcher and Sir John Major were, despite there being a vacancy iirc; neither has Gordon Brown.

I must be the last surviving member of the pollyanna club. I didn't think Iraq warranted full our war at the time, but nor do I think TB feels exonerated. He is, I think, seriously haunted by the repercussions.

Full on, sorry!

And the catastrophic destabilisation of the ME has been made much worse by the second Gulf war. With all the refugee issues we see now.

The truth about David Kelly would be nice.
Let's hope the subject can be aired some more,in MN if nothing else.

I reread this and felt sick - Tony Blair saying on 25th February 2003 in the House of Commons that he didn't want war when he must have known full well that he had committed the country to it.

www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmhansrd/vo030225/debtext/30225-05.htm#30225-05_spmin1

Tony Blair saying on 25th February 2003 in the House of Commons that he didn't want war when he must have known full well that he had committed the country to it.

My default position is always anti-war, but I am a realist. Even so, I was opposed to any military action in Iraq - after all it's a long way from here.

Then that cunt Blair went on National TV and warned us that Saddam was capable of launching an attach which could possibly target the UK.

Despite the gravest misgivings (it seemed unlikely, but Saddam had form for buying and trying big weapons) I never dreamt that a serving PM would lie to the public to advance their own agenda.

Especially not with peoples lives (not just the soldiers, but the poor hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have been killed since 2003).

Turns out he did. Guaranteeing I can never trust another PM again.

Hell is too good for that man. He did not act in good faith, we did in believing him.

What do we tell our children ? Trust politicians ?

The damage he has done will linger for generations. Our grandchildrens grandchildren will be remembering him, as we remember Bloody Mary.

we did in believing him Speak for yourself there please!! You're quite right on the other points though...

Never mind the really enormous Blair porkies, like 45 mins and WMD. He also shamelessly lied over Iraq's "growing" nuclear weapons programme (refuted completely by the International Atomic Energy Agency), remember that one? How about when he said in the Commons, that he KNEW of links between Saddam and Al Qaeda and that he'd like to go the way of the U.N but the French would block anything and everything put before the it. Presumably just for the fun of it? Of course all these lies get described now as "wrong" - as in - the "wrong" information.

How on earth can this report conclude he might have mislead but he didn't lie? It's f*ing mind blowing really. What have you got to do then to actually be done for lying? Bliar says in his defence now, that he believed what he did was right, at the time.

As John Pilger wrote back in 2003 : "Blair tells us constantly that he believes what he says, and perhaps he does. Several of the defendants at Nuremberg offered the same plea, and so have other state murderers at The Hague. Like them, Blair should have his day in court."

What upsets me so much is that so many children have been and are growing up in hell because Iraq has been so destabilised. The irony is that Blair would have had the power I am sure to rein Bush and the people with him back if he had just said we won't support you on this.

I hope he does have to appear in a court of law to justify his actions.
I am a Labour voter and always have been but he is so false and has been so horrible to Jeremy Corbyn who, after all, was one of the very brave people who stood up at the time to oppose it (and, interestingly, Ken Clarke - I hadn't realised he had opposed it in 2003).

Some of the journalism on this this last week has been excellent - I miss the paper Independent which was anti war at the time.