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Visa-Free travel for Turkish Nationals is looking like a reality now, according to Der Spiegel. Does this impact your thoughts on Brexit?

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Rainbunny · 29/04/2016 19:31

I have been continuously on the fence about the referendum, perhaps most recently I would vote to stay. Everytime I think I have come to a decision though, I read something new that concerns me and puts me straight back on the fence. Today I read an article in Der Spiegel that alarmed me. It looks like the EU (well, let's be honest - Merkel) may well grant visa-free travel to Turkish citizens despite the fact that Turkey won't meet EU conditions (including the fact that their passports and paperwork are not up to EU standards - so fraud will be a VERY REAL issue.)

It has come down to this apparently, Erdogan get's visa-free travel or he will sink the refugee deal. Simple as that. Which way do think the EU (Merkel) will go? I'm not optimistic. Honestly, does this not concern you regarding our future in the EU?

"...Gareth Jenkins, a prominent British expert on Turkey, believes that a substantial number of Turks would come to Europe and either apply for asylum or disappear into the underground economy, especially in Germany and the Netherlands, where so many Turks have relatives. There are already 400,000 internally displaced refugees within the Kurdish regions of Turkey as a result of the civil war-like conditions there. Many are dirt poor, Jenkins says, "but whether by finding it themselves or borrowing it from others, even they would be able to find enough money to get a passport and pay the 70 to 80 it costs for a one-way flight on a budget airline from Turkey to Germany..."

www.spiegel.de/international/europe/europe-at-pains-over-visa-free-travel-for-turks-a-1090040.html

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Backpfeifengesicht · 16/05/2016 23:27

Well, I did find this article in the Guardian regarding Turkish visa free travel as interesting food for thought.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/16/former-mi6-chief-richard-dearlove-warns-against-visa-free-turkish-immigration

Limer · 16/05/2016 23:34

I heard Richard Dearlove talking about this on the radio. He's right.

And as an aside, Germany taking the official "most hated EU country" spot in Eurovision - aka last place, usually reserved for the UK - surely confirms what everyone already knew. Merkel's open borders and resultant quotas for all are going down like a lead balloon.

ProfessorPreciseaBug · 17/05/2016 06:09

"storing gasoline next to the fire" .....

No one could put it better..

STIDW · 17/05/2016 07:19

Dearlove talks about once Turks are established in the EU in context of visa free travel but visa liberlisation means visas are to be replaced with more secure passports for short term travel in the Schengen area.

80Kgirl · 17/05/2016 09:20

OP, visa free travel for Turks doesn't affect my thinking about the referendum. It's part of the direction of travel for the EU that I have already accounted for in my thinking on the matter.

AnnaForbes · 17/05/2016 23:22

I have supported Brexit long before Merkel made her deal with Erdogan so no it doesnt have any effect on my voting intention. I do think Merkel has made a huge msitake though, there will undoubtedly be a greater risk of terrorist actvity in the Schengen area. And then there is the small point of Turkey's illegal occupation of Northern Cyprus.

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