Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

News

Hillsborough Inquest - police finally blamed after 27 years

84 replies

FreckledLeopard · 26/04/2016 11:26

The verdict is in. The victims were unlawfully killed.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36138337

Finally, after waiting so long, I hope this brings some peace to the families and friends of those who died. Flowers

OP posts:
Badders123 · 26/04/2016 14:57

JFT96
Finally
RIP

Badders123 · 26/04/2016 14:57

JFT96
Finally
RIP

Badders123 · 26/04/2016 14:57

JFT96
Finally
RIP

YellowShockedFace · 26/04/2016 15:03

I read on the guardian that when relatives went to identify their loved ones dead bodies the police were there eating chicken and chips and talking to each other like nothing had happened.
Everything that happened that day and until today is tragic.

RupertPupkin · 26/04/2016 15:11

Finally some closure for these families. The stories that came out of the inquest were utterly heartbreaking.

RIP Flowers

PirateSmile · 26/04/2016 15:19

Justice at last.

The families have been through every legal process imaginable and failed because of the cover ups. They never, ever gave up. I can't think of a more courageous group of people than the Hillsborough families.

BringMeTea · 26/04/2016 15:19

Really hope some heads roll. What a disgrace the South yorkshire force were. So happy for the families and friends.

coffeeisnectar · 26/04/2016 15:29

I will never forget watching this as it unfolded on TV. It was footballs darkest day.

I am so glad the families have justice at long last. Heartbreaking to think that so many lost their lives that day. I imagine them leaving home in the morning, all high with excitement and anticipation and then just not coming home. Those poor families.

VertigoNun · 26/04/2016 15:35

If they'll lie and collude over this, what else will they/have they lied and colluded on??

There are many agencies doing this today.

BoatyMcBoat · 26/04/2016 15:37

I remember watching the News with horror. (And I remember The bloody Sun after.) So glad the victims and families have truth at last.

NameAgeLocation · 26/04/2016 15:39

At last.

Flowers
Unicow · 26/04/2016 16:52

So glad to see justice at last. There are a LOT of people very happy right now.

Re the sun I'm pretty sure they daren't send journalists up here. The sun pretty much doesn't exist in this area (near Warrington) certainly in independent shops.

Unicow · 26/04/2016 16:52

So glad to see justice at last. There are a LOT of people very happy right now.

Re the sun I'm pretty sure they daren't send journalists up here. The sun pretty much doesn't exist in this area (near Warrington) certainly in independent shops.

coffeeisnectar · 26/04/2016 18:07

www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/26/hillsborough-disaster-deadly-mistakes-and-lies-that-lasted-decades?CMP=share_btn_fb

This is a really good article and there's an 11 minute video summing up all the evidence and cover ups that went on.

MayhemandMadness · 26/04/2016 18:32

JFT96 Flowers

It should never have taken this long to get the truth.

purplevase · 26/04/2016 19:11

If they'll lie and collude over this, what else will they/have they lied and colluded on

There are many agencies doing this today

Fortunately social media has made it all a bit more difficult though. If this happened now, people would be there with mobile phones. However terrible, they'd be recording where the TV cameras were not. They'd be tweeting and facebooking and there would be instant come-back against media lies.

As I said on the other thread, this happened because it was football fans, and because it was Liverpool fans in particular - Heysel was still in peoples' minds.

purplevase · 26/04/2016 19:11

Just to be clear "this" means the cover-up!

nauticant · 27/04/2016 08:10

Here are today's newspaper front pages. Check out the two papers which chose to keep the news off the front page:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-36147007

Pathetic. But not surprising.

nauticant · 27/04/2016 08:32

It turns out The Times did a U-turn and in a later edition did include a Hillsborough-related banner.

They must have been late in receiving the news and were only able to include it in a later edition. Yes, that'll be it.

BoatyMcBoat · 27/04/2016 09:11

Yes, Purple. Thank god for tech! There have been several cases in the last 10(?) years where police lies have been shown up by people's phones recording events.

rogueantimatter · 27/04/2016 10:32

Like some of the other posters on this thread I'm not from anywhere near Hillsborough but I remember learning about this disaster. One of the many things that horrifies me is the way, as a general member of the public, my understanding of the events only extended as far as that there was 'controversy' over what had happened. I can't imagine the intensity of anger and sadness that the family and friends of the victims must have felt for all this time knowing what really happened. I'm posting to offer my support.

And the botch after botch on the day; the stadium, lack of organisation with the turn styles, faulty walkie-talkies, lack of medical equipment, no-one on hand to open the gates, ambulance sitting there ineffectually on the pitch, police thinking it was a riot/drunken behaviour? stood in a row while people were crushed to death. And then to lie about it. As if the cavalier attitude to crowd safety wasn't bad enough. Those hideous, disgusting lies about the victims. Which will have been believed or at least read or seen, causing ignorant people like me to wonder if there was some truth in it. Cruel and cowardly.

It seems to me that we're all sometimes guilty of making wrong assumptions and having prejudices and therefore can understand - but not condone - how some of the mistakes came about. Speaking only for myself I don't like football for a few reasons; the dominance it has over other sports and all the associated bad behaviour that seems to have gone along with it for so long; corruption at the highest level, bad behaviour by some players, more relevant - the problems with hooliganism that I saw - from a distance - when I was a teenager in the few years before 1989. This perception I had - as a general member of the public whose only knowledge of football matches came from media reports, made me think there might have been something in the despicable lies told by The Sun (which I've never bought for other reasons anyway - page 3 being one of them). And as an outsider I can see how/why the first impression could have been that the crowd was rioting, before the realisation was made that the gates had been opened causing the disastrous crush. Like I say, I don't know the facts in enough detail - that's my guess/impression as to why the crush was dealt with in such a horrific way, but if the police had admitted to getting it wrong and saying, ' There had previously been problems with hooliganism and I/we wrongly assumed at first that this was what was happening' surely that could have been understood. How can the police chief/ match commander have lived with himself knowing the extra pain he was causing people not just in trying to cover up the truth but in blaming the victims? As if all those deaths weren't bad enough?

I was very struck by the comments yesterday about the consequence that a whole generation lost all trust in the police as a result of this. And a man saying how that for decades the thought of his relative being left on his own to die had preyed on his mind. Until eventually he had a crumb of comfort when details were disclosed and he learnt that his relative had been helped during his final moments of life.

The traumatic stress disorder that so many people have suffered and been denied. Posters who knew victims please know that people like myself who were exposed to the lies now know the truth and are relieved that yesterday's judgment went the right way. Finally. I hope that you are supported through the next stage.

Pepperpot99 · 27/04/2016 12:02

I am a Londoner and I remember the day it happened; I came home to find my dad watching the football on tv in horror. We watched it unfold. For the record, I have never believed anything that the police, Thatcher's government or the Murdoch press said about Hillsborough. Neither did my dad or anyone else I know. Many, many people knew it was a filthy conspiracy.

rogueantimatter · 27/04/2016 13:09

I'm glad you aren't naïve like I was Pepperpot (I came from a small, remote community).

I really hope that the people responsible are prosecuted - it might not be straightforward as there was no crime of corporate manslaughter at the time of Hillsborough.

toomuchtooold · 27/04/2016 16:09

Do you know what I find really odd, is that I come from Glasgow and I remember people around me talking about it at the time and there was never the slightest suggestion that anyone thought the story about the fans being to blame was true. I think we saw them as being like us - demonised and feared by the Tory government who had hung us out to dry with their economic policy and now just wished we would go away. Distrust of the authorities came as second nature. It was really a divided country in a way that I think is hard to remember now.

laylabelle · 27/04/2016 18:26

Guess having Heysel happen years before and the seen behaviour of fans at the time made it easier for so many to believe what was being said.Least know it has come out just 27 years to late.So many mistakes which people could've easily admitted to at the time and instead to lie and lie and lie..scary

Swipe left for the next trending thread