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Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part IX

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vladimirsoftless · 07/02/2016 13:06

Petition

Women in the UK must be free to work, travel and live free of sexual violence

Recently, women across the EU were subjected to mass sexual assaults of a type previously unknown in Europe. We demand that Government brings forward proposals for extra measures to uphold UK women's rights, safety & freedom, and to expand police understanding-recognition-response to such behaviour.

Please take a look and and sign:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/119385

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BrittEkland · 06/03/2016 08:56

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BrittEkland · 06/03/2016 08:59

It took a Bavarian male Governor, Seehofer, and 2 months to spell it out aloud .

I wonder how many migrants were placed in Bavaria. I hope they havent fucked up the beautiful Ebermannstadt. That would be a tragedy.

ProfessorPreciseaBug · 06/03/2016 09:17

Quaint,
When the media start asking about the migrants and their behaviour instead of focussing on the border situation.

I do consider that we have created a very serious problem by allowing such a fast influx of very large numbers. As a mongrel nation we are made up of people from all over the place. However in the past, those influxes of people have been smaller and much slower allowing the new arrivals time to assimilate into the host culture.

This recent influx, both those invited by Blair and the present refugee crisis, have allowed the new arrivals to create self sustaining ghettoes that hold to the ideas and cultures of the place they left behind. the problem being that those cultural norms are at odds with British culture, particularly with regards to the treatment of women.

The situation is made worse when well intended people say the new arrivals are allowed to express their own culture and traditions without addressing the conflict between the indigenous culture and that of the new arrivals.

The problem now is how to address the situation. Do we say, as an imigrant you have a duty to adopt the culture of the place you have arrived at? Or do we allow what is by our standards, criminal and discriminatory behaviour to continue?

Woodhill · 06/03/2016 09:21

Yes I've encountered the let everyone come brigade and that I'm some sort of nasty piece of work for not agreeing.

Quaintessential · 06/03/2016 09:35

The problem now is how to address the situation. Do we say, as an imigrant you have a duty to adopt the culture of the place you have arrived at? Or do we allow what is by our standards, criminal and discriminatory behaviour to continue?

Um let me think..I'll go for the former. They can get tae fuck with their medieval 'beliefs'.
Are people forgetting that the radical Muslims are promising to DECAPITATE those who won't convert. And given the decapitation of that poor innocent child in Russia last week it seems they are not afraid to follow through with their promise.

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 09:42

A very good question what is the quotas for geographic distribution of refugees in Germany. I found stats!
Well the biggest number of refugee quota is in North Rhine-Westphalia 21.2%. and is exactly the place where Cologne is located! Hmm It has 4 of the biggest German cities. Next comes Bavaria 15.3% and next Baden Wutemberg 12.9%.
www.bamf.de/EN/Migration/AsylFluechtlinge/Asylverfahren/Verteilung/verteilung-node.html

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 09:55

I found from the German Migration ministry website 'Applying for asylum at the border or in the country' It says as follows:

This first possibility is that a foreign national registers as an asylum-seeker on entry to the country. To do this, he contacts the border authorities who will then direct him to the nearest initial reception facility. This does not apply however if he is denied entry, perhaps because he has arrived from a safe third country. The second option is for a foreign national to declare himself as an asylum-seeker once he has entered the country. In this case, too, he will be directed to the nearest initial reception facility.
Now, as the Balkan route entry is reduced to drops in the ocean none of the above options works and the migrants will stay in Greece's hotspots and will be decided there.
www.bamf.de/EN/Migration/AsylFluechtlinge/Asylverfahren/Verteilung/verteilung-node.html

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 10:47

Here are the rights of asylum seekers in Greece:

I found that Hellenic Police gives to the migrants arriving on Greek soil and a brochure on their rights translated in 14 languages which include the references to International Laws. The brochure informs them refugees have right to apply as asylum seekers in Greece I then provide source: 2 clips here from this Police brochure. It says that refugees applying for asylum to stay in Greece have same rights to employment, social security and benefits as every Greek citizen; free health care; state pension; education and professional training!

www.astynomia.gr/index.php?option=ozo_content&perform=view&id=4883&Itemid=1024&lang=

Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part IX
Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part IX
unlucky83 · 06/03/2016 11:04

I think it is even more than just culture.
I grew up in a largish village, it had a real sense of community, people knew and helped each other out, children/teens were more likely to behave on the streets cos adults were not afraid to tell them off and they knew their parents. Strangers were noticed. Little crime and vandalism. Then over 25 years (starting in the mid 80s) there was mass house building, the population almost tripled in size. (I still have family there.)
Not immigrants (it was a naice, so relatively expensive, place to live) but I guess immigration has to come into this as that is the reason for the largest growth in population and the reason people could sell their house to move there. Anyway the community spirit has completely disappeared, it is a very different place and there is now more crime and vandalism etc.
I think it was due to the speed of increase and sheer volume of 'new' people, too many to integrate into the existing, actually outnumbered, community. I have lived in several other places since, including London and haven't found the same level of community.
I could think it was because we lived in a more selfish, insular age but actually I now live many miles away.
It is similar to how my village used to be. We have a strong sense of community, zero (literally from the police figures for some months) crime, little vandalism etc etc. I am a 'new' person but there are only a relative few of us at a time, a trickle so we have integrated, neighbours introduce themselves to new people, etc. It has been expanding but at a steady slow rate over the years so it has been possible to integrate.
And I guess it is the same for the country as a whole ...even in big cities there were pockets of communities and they seem to have more or less disappeared or been taken over by different communities who have seen a steady growth in numbers. I do wonder what will happen to those 'new' communities too now with the speed and numbers of recent immigration.

TheNewStatesman · 06/03/2016 12:04

"I'm sure if Sweden and Germany had wanted more reproducing couples, PLENTY of hard up Brits suffering high cost of property here would have obliged - not any more though."

Reminds me a bit of the Auf Wiedersehen, Pet era. As you say, though, it probably won't happen again.

It does make me wonder whether we could start to see an increase in emigration from the UK, to places like Australia or Canada.

AnnaForbes · 06/03/2016 12:13

Sadly it is very hard to be accepted into Australia, new Zealand or Canada. Those countries do a better job of prioritising their own than the EU does. The irony of wanting to emigrate! Believe me, if I could, I would. If we are still in the EU come Turkey's accession, I think the UK will be finished.

southernstar · 06/03/2016 13:20

Hi want to share a post on gatestone re rape attacks in Germany , not sure how to do so . We have seen many like this before but this one lists the incidents since the cologne attacks ( which started this thread) . I have seen so much been spoken in our media that there is not a problem , this is difficult to defend .
Could someone who has seen gatestone please share the article ( Britt I think you have in the past )
Thanks

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 13:38

Anna I have relatives in Australia. It is a wonderful place. A country that accepts and trains people. If you have opportunity to go there it is wonderful. Some people however, do a job which is tied or linked to a certain country or even city so they dont have incentive to move away from it.

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 13:40

There is a point system to get to Canada and USA. USA is very good.

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 13:44

Cost of living in the UK are very high especialy housing and heating. If one wants to migrate where the costs are lower and then come back once they ve sold their home here they d find it hard to get a new one.

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 13:45

The health costs in USA are too high - we lived and worked there - even with insurance we paid hundreds of dollars.

AgainstTheGlock · 06/03/2016 14:21

What are the medical requirements to emigrate outside the EU? I know a Scottish friend had to have chest x-rays done for the US (american wife) and an English friend had to have them done + HIV tests to go and live in Saudi with her husband (his work contract).

Ironic that we dish out free healthcare yet require no "basic health status" at the doors.

It's not particularly easy to get into Canada these days - I believe the standard wait for a UK citizen is 48 months+ (long time to put your life on hold). The US aren't interested in UK applications - we don't even qualify for the green card lottery. Don't NZ make it quite easy for themselves to kick you out if the economy takes a nose-dive?

I'm one of those never vaccinated against TB and avoiding the Northern Line these days. Aren't there also rumours that smallpox is on its way back?

BrittEkland · 06/03/2016 14:49

southernstar

www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7557/germany-rape-migrants-crisis

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southernstar · 06/03/2016 15:25

Thank you Britt .

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 15:52

This is so and you see in outpatient departments. I have known also EU-born patients doing several sophisticated surgeries, working in UK but choosing to pay ALL their tax in their native state across the chanel and not here. I dont know why this is allowed by NHS.

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 16:03

There must be a loophole some EU citizens exploit and this must be stopped. They can work in UK be resident here but they chose to pay all taxes in their native country across and yet have free NHS here.

MariscallRoad · 06/03/2016 16:14

We should not be playing the Fall Guy with those EU non-tax payers residing in UK. This is tax avoidance of the EU citizens. We will become Greece if we go on like that. But I ve known also first hand in my neighbourhood EU-landlords (whites) who rent their buy-to-let 2 bed apartment to 7 persons claiming they only rented to a family.

BrittEkland · 06/03/2016 16:27

In fact, foreign "investment" in buy-to-let should not be allowed. All the new builds going up all over London have been bought off-plan by foreigners, sight unseen. The one bedroom apartments in the same blocks have been left as crumbs for the indigenous Brits to pick up, because that size/price is the max they can afford.

BrittEkland · 06/03/2016 16:46

My friend's son (30) will be moving to Vancouver in May. He works for a French company in London that has a few branches worldwide. Lucky him, he doesnt have to make an argument for his move to Canada - all that is being done for him by his employer. He earns very well in this country, seeing as he has no education to speak of, and says that CoL in Canada is lower, taxes and properites are lower. His relocation package alone is £12,000, whether he spends it or not! He was interviewed by Skype a few times, prevaricated then just went for it. He is a mummy's boy and an only child, so it's sadness all round.

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