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Can Oily Dave say "No?"

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PigletJohn · 28/10/2015 22:45

Will the PM guarantee that people will not be worse off as a result of the Tax Credit Cuts?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34660323

Apparently he cannot bring himself to tell the truth.

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MissMarpleCat · 30/10/2015 13:50

Now, I do agree that the defunct NHS IT system was a disgraceful waste of tax payers money. However, that doesn't detract from the fact that the UC debacle is also the same.

claig · 30/10/2015 13:53

'Or maybe he never got a straight talking honest answer'

Somewhat like when every poster asks you to answer a point and all they get is cut-and-paste spout in bold and underlined and now increasingly in italics about Lehman Brothers and why Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband were directly responsible, in other words dollops of doofus like drivel..

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 13:58

"the Tory mole that even Tory Central Office wish would bat for Corbyn"

Yeah I'm a "mole", similar to Secret Squirrel me, you'd never guess who I vote for.

Whereas claig votes for everyone here, the U.S., the Ukraine, and in the Middle East that Mr Putin would want in office; there is no such thing as a Russian Troll House, or Russian trolls, no mole, nothing to see here - move on.

P.S. On your UKIP horse, Cochise, what is Mr Farages view on Tax Credits, as if joining the gang trying to discredit me, I assume he is FOR them, what is the policy exactly?

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 14:00

Claig .... do you have anything to say on tax credits, as you lecturing me on posting reams of shit is making me reach.

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 14:01

P.S. Claig, when I posted again on ISIS (and Russia), did I activate you, as not here until then?

claig · 30/10/2015 14:04

'what is the policy exactly?'

I don't know, they don't tell me.

'do you have anything to say on tax credits'

Only that I am glad the Lords defeated Cameron and the Tories on that. I prefer to add that I like the millions of other posters scroll past one of your coma inducing drone fest posts. That's all I want to say. I just want to agree with everyone else.

claig · 30/10/2015 14:07

'P.S. Claig, when I posted again on ISIS (and Russia), did I activate you, as not here until then?'

I saw it but ignored it because it was as ignorant as ever. I keep patiently explaining you that it has nothing to do with the Syrian people but you never seem to get it, so I will leave you to your deluded rantings and ravings.

MissMarpleCat · 30/10/2015 14:08

secret squirrel that made me smile, I loved that as a nipper.
you'd never guess who I'd vote for Hmm let me think.... Aw shucks you got me there.

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 14:18

"I just want to agree with everyone else."

Claig ... Really, all those thousands of posts for a far right UKIP for a few years DISAGREEING with everyone else when UKIP were taking twice as many votes from the Tories Putin hates (and clearly has company) but don't know their policies?

Then all those hundreds of posts in months supporting a 1970's style far left Corbyn activist, move on, nothing to see there. Or Donald Trump, Teressa May, or President Assad.

I guess the fact I posted at 13.13 on the ISIS thread and your first post trying to discredit me was 15-minutes later, is a complete fluke. Hmmm.

"Russian ambassador lavishes praise on Jeremy Corbyn over foreign policy"
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11881065/Russian-ambassador-lavishes-praise-on-Jeremy-Corbyn-over-foreign-policy.html

In unusual intervention, Russian ambassador to Britain criticises David Cameron and praises Jeremy Corbyn's foreign policy

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 14:21

MissMarplesCat .... "you'd never guess who I'd vote for hmm let me think.... Aw shucks you got me there."

Talk to Miss Marples Dog, it didn't need the memo and is completely up to speed. lol

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 14:25

Claig ... maybe if 'the Russian Ambassador' put down his obligatory but horrible round French(?) chocolates and posted directly, he'd have more credibility/luck.

claig · 30/10/2015 14:25

'and your first post trying to discredit me was 15-minutes later'

I don't need to discredit you, you do a great job of that yourself. Have you ever read one of your own posts? They are absolute drivel which is why everybody skips over and scrolls past them in relief.

'criticises David Cameron and praises Jeremy Corbyn's foreign policy'

Who on earth doesn't? Wake up!

This is from General Richards, the former chief of the defence staff

"David Cameron lacked 'balls' to head off the rise of Isis, says former defence chief
...
In a scathing analysis of the UK prime minister’s approach, Gen Lord Richards of Herstmonceux said Cameron’s approach seemed “more about the Notting Hill liberal agenda rather than statecraft”.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/30/david-cameron-lacked-balls-to-head-off-the-rise-of-isis-says-former-defence-chief

MissMarpleCat · 30/10/2015 14:26

Only if the dog is snoopy Angry

MissMarpleCat · 30/10/2015 14:28

Sorry that was meant to be a Smile
I've got a very boisterous 18 month old on my lap trying to hug me to death Grin

LineyReborn · 30/10/2015 14:35

Isitmebut Have you ever thought about writing slightly longer posts?

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 14:38

MissMarplesUpToSpeedCat ... we have three over 20-years old, without a whiff of a grandchild, I'm envious.

Claig .... re your ISIS post (on here?) trying to discredit Cameron, surely if you lived here you'd have enough ammo of Tax Credits to do that - rather than feel the need to quote a washed up UK general - you are losing the plot and support of your supervisor while trying to hit your quota, its one of the Russian Fronts for you.

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 14:54

LineyReborn ... re your Isitmebut Have you ever thought about writing slightly longer posts?

Let me know when you think that you can keep up with the EXTRA detail, and I will.

claig · 30/10/2015 14:55

'EXTRA detail'

Is that a euphemism for extra bullshit?

Shutthatdoor · 30/10/2015 14:57

The right wing of the Conservative party also believe that they say what everyone else is thinking and that the party would win the next election in a landslide if only it moved to the right. They are just as wrong as Corbyn's supporters.

^ this.

What gets me about these threads is actually the name calling and victrol of posters on both 'sides'

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 14:57

Good one comrade, send us a postcard.

Isitmebut · 30/10/2015 15:05

Shutthatdoor .... similar to 'Everard' I can't believe how personal it gets.

I'd appeal against 'both sides' as I rarely start the personal stuff, but on the basis that if you don't stick up for yourself you get cyber bum-buggered, often by little gangs, when they get the 'scent'.

ON that basis, I have 'stuff' to do, so 'over and out', and laters.

Isitmebut · 02/11/2015 00:14

Free 30-hours childcare.

The FUNDING of policies (or changes to policies) with the likes of the independent Office for Budget Responsibility ‘OBR’ formed in 2010 running its slide rule over government tax/spending projections - after a politicized UK Treasury appeared to take the last administrations word for where tax receipts would come from otherwise should have SCREAMED ‘Budget Deficit’ – is not lost on Labour, well the in the Lords at least.

The planned start of the 30-hours from September 2017 could now be delayed.

Apparently the Labour Lords are asking for an independent review of the funding and god knows when that would report, be revised, and found 'worthy' of their rubber stamp.

So my suggesting that Osborne/Cameron could not have made any ”guarantees" on Tax Credits Corbyn requested when needing to look at £4.5 billion the government thought they were saving over the next 3-years - 24-hours after the Lords rejected legislation that went through the Commons several times – is just common sense, as would be under parliamentary scrutiny, as other ‘stuff’ might need to be cut.

FYI the independent OBR takes governments spending/cuts/tax plans and all other 'assumptions', and puts it all in their forward UK economic/financial model, and so politicians words on what they are going to do is independently checked - hence some of the not so government friendly comments they issue, like when Osborne said last year he'd take the UK into an annual budget surplus by 2010.

In other words whether with the best intentions and/or secret knowledge of what they are going to do the FOLLOWING year, under the OBR Chancellors don't get 'the benefit of the doubt' any more. IMO.

PigletJohn · 02/11/2015 00:18

"Can Oily Dave say "No?""

No, he can't.

Even though isitmebut keeps telling us that would have been the true answer (which we all knew).

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Isitmebut · 02/11/2015 11:48

PigletJohn ....

So the Labour Lords can demand a policy is funded properly (and even request independent verification, which could take months), yet the Labour Commons Leader Corbyn can demand the government gives details of a £4.5 billion UK budget shortfall caused by the Lords vote, 24 hours after it occurred, eh?

As "oily" Dave DID say at that PMQT; Labour were forging "an alliance of the unelected and the unelectable" which based on their detailed government funding hypocrisy, sounds more relevant.

PigletJohn · 02/11/2015 12:38

I see you want to divert onto some other question of your own invention.

Oily Dave can't say "no" even though we all know that's the truth.

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