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Ted Heath

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ImperialBlether · 03/08/2015 14:33

Has anyone seen this? There's going to be a full investigation into Ted Heath and historic child sex abuse.

The net will be growing tighter around a lot of others if there's something in this.

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TheNewStatesman · 05/08/2015 22:32

"Interesting in a horrible way that boys are called 'rent boys' but girls aren't called 'rent girls'. They are 'child prostitutes'."

No--the term "child prostitute" has not been used in the media for some time.

CalmYourselfTubbs · 05/08/2015 23:00

sansarya - yes.

Sansarya · 05/08/2015 23:15

I thought so. There was apparently a film made years ago about a dapper distinguished politician who used to get teenage boys from upmarket boys' schools delivered to him that was based on WM. no idea who the other one might be though!

Sansarya · 05/08/2015 23:18

On second thoughts, maybe I do have an idea - mysterious death, body never found?

CalmYourselfTubbs · 05/08/2015 23:24

yes.
he was about to be exposed. his associated 'group' is still 'active', if i can use such a word to describe their monstrous acts.

CFSKate · 06/08/2015 08:46

Journalist Don Hale says that Ted Heath was on Barbara Castle's list. (Don Hale was a newspaper editor, IIRC he said before that he was warned off by Cyril Smith and raided by Special Branch who took the dossier)

audioboom.com/boos/3437078-investigative-journalist-don-hale-barbara-castle-came-to-me-in-1984-saying-ted-heath-was-one-of-the-ringleaders-of-a-vip-paedophile-ring

Sansarya · 06/08/2015 09:22

Calm is that the group apparently associated with Nicole Kidman's father? He died quite suddenly recently, in a fall and some quite unbelievable stories have surfaced since then.

achieve6 · 06/08/2015 11:01

I'm a bit confused again
the mysterious disappearance doesn't seem terribly mysterious to me, that sort of thing can and does happen.

CFSKate · 06/08/2015 14:21

ExaroNews ?@ExaroNews 2 hrs2 hours ago

Exaro can reveal: Jimmy Savile’s nephew, Guy Marsden, claims that Sir Edward Heath sexually abused a friend – a 14yo boy in around 1969.

redshoeblueshoe · 06/08/2015 15:46

Gloucestershire Police have just announced that they too are investigating Ted.
Sky news - now

redshoeblueshoe · 06/08/2015 16:30

Thames Valley Police have also just announced that they too are investigating Ted Heath.

DoubleDeClutchMuch · 06/08/2015 16:56

What's the significance of different branches of the police investigating him? Does it mean that survivors in various different parts of the country are coming forward? Sorry if that's a stupid question

Garlick · 06/08/2015 17:24

I haven't read about all seven regional police forces now investigating claims about Heath. The reports I have read say that they received complaints while he was alive, but didn't pursue them very far for various reasons - quite often the reason seems to be that the witness was of bad character, which is pretty usual in abused children.

It seems that some of the same witnesses are now coming forward again (Star Flowers to all of them) and some others, who've recently realised they shouldn't have dismissed what they were being told, are also supporting the same stories.

I do feel for Guy Marsden, Peter Jacomelli's family, and others in similar positions. I hope they're now able to help the authorities unravel these terrible injustices.

Garlick · 06/08/2015 17:45

Just revisited this, from 2012. Allegations against Morrison are still "being investigated" beyond the grave, despite a inundation of witness accounts :(
www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-eyewitness-saw-thatcher-aide-take-boys-to-abuse

TheHoneyBadger · 06/08/2015 17:46

yes - likely that in some cases they've done a review of past complaints to see if his name comes up and where it does covering their arses quick by being seen to re-investigate. they will want to be able to say they were proactive at acting to remedy where complaints may not have been dealt with properly by their predecessors

suzanneyeswecan · 06/08/2015 18:14

quite often the reason seems to be that the witness was of bad character, which is pretty usual in abused children

these victims of child sex abuse are all a bit screwed up so we dont need to take them seriously

how sickeningly convenient for everyone

there must be so many peadophile offenders who are sweating now that the tide seems to be turning, waiting, feeling sick, wondering if or when the children who they violated will speak out

lastuseraccount123 · 06/08/2015 18:25

i'm at the point where if someone has been involved in prostitution, lived on streets, drug addict etc I assume they have been abused as a child. It makes you look at the world very differently.

Garlick · 06/08/2015 19:02

Actually, last, you are right. Studies of prostitutes have found very high proportions up to 100% were sexually abused as children. Child sexual abuse is known as the number one factor in severely dysfunctional adult lives. Most psychiatrists/psychologists agree that if child abuse could be eliminated, societies would become almost crime-free.

If you know a psychotherapist, ask them how they felt when they were told about the true prevalence of child sexual exploitation.

Sansarya · 06/08/2015 19:03

Did anyone see the disgraceful Simon Jenkins article in today's Guardian about how the "dead and defenceless" are being targeted by the current "obsession" with historical child sex abuse cases? He also appears to think there should be a 10 year statute of limitations like there is in the U.S. He may be eating his words soon...

lastuseraccount123 · 06/08/2015 20:23

sansayara I'm not going to read that because I will be overcome with the RAGE.

Garlick :(. just :( :( :(.

yes, people. our society is THAT damaged that we think it's ok to throw hundreds of people under the bus like that. (general "We").

CalmYourselfTubbs · 06/08/2015 21:42

Sansarya the group associated with the former australian prime minister operated out of adelaide. the one that antony kidman is allegedly associated with operated out of sydney.
both are linked to an international paedophile ring.

achieve6 · 06/08/2015 23:26

Does anyone know if Heath had nephews, nieces, any close rellies still alive?

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