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This is what Jeremy Corbyn is about

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blacksunday · 26/07/2015 12:51

If you're genuinely interested in hearing what he is about, here's an Andrew Marr interview where there is actually a discussion of his Corbyn's campaign, the issues, and what his political programme would look like:

Corbyn: I want to convert Labour into a 'more social movement'

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02y2ffn

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YeOldeTrout · 28/08/2015 20:25

@Squidzin: I covet your ?.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 28/08/2015 20:26

Yes, absolutely. Jeremy Corbyn is going to win the next election. The scales have fallen from my eyes. The Labour party is going to go from strength to strength under his inspired and insightful leadership and we will never have a Tory government again - because it's what the British people want, they just don't know it yet...

mabythesea · 28/08/2015 20:28

At least Corbyn is offering something different from the Tories and Tory-Lite Labour. What's the point in having two parties if you can barely tell the difference between them?

squidzin · 28/08/2015 20:29

Glad you're on board KKK !

?? it's a goodun, YeOld Wink

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 28/08/2015 20:36

I find the excuses for the man's stance on Hamas intriguing. On the one hand, we love him because he's a man of principle, he stands up for what he believes in regardless of mainstream opinion etc etc. On the other, we defend his position on hamas, because that's just realpolitik and that's what it takes to get the nutters round the table and talking. Pragmatism suddenly becomes laudable, then.
I'd say "I don't understand" but there's nothing really to understand. Just something rather unpleasant which is not, I believe, representative of this country, which I believe is inhabited on the whole by pretty decent people.

squidzin · 28/08/2015 20:57

Well done for lots of words when you don't know what they mean.

JC is opening discourse on beginning peace negotiation between Hamas and Extreme Israeli Zionists.

What is your problem with this stance?

caroldecker · 28/08/2015 21:13

My problem with him is he is anti-semitic. Stop the War coalition, which he chairs supports the Al-Quds Day march. The controversial holiday was proclaimed in 1979 by Iran’s Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini as a religious duty for all Muslims to rally in solidarity against Israel and for the “liberation” of Jerusalem.

In a meeting he said:

Corbyn had a very different take, noting that the Balfour declaration was “an extremely controversial document” and suggesting – to an audible intake of breath from the audience – that it had been in fact “imposed” by Jewish members of the British cabinet.

Additionally:

Earlier this year, Corbyn wrote a letter in support of a priest who claimed that Israel and wealthy Jews were behind the terror attack on the World Trade Center

squidzin · 28/08/2015 21:16

OMG caroldecker
I think you read The Jewish Chronicle a bit too much. They are smearing him, for being anti-zionist and not anti-Semitic.

He is a pacifist. Against any extreme factions of any kind.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 28/08/2015 21:19

Oh you lot. You would be funny, if only you didn't have the vote. As it is, you're rather frightening - or would be, if there were more of you.

squidzin · 28/08/2015 21:28

Anti Semitic, not in the slightest.
Anti extremism, yes absolutely.

A lot of mainstream publications are grasping at straws.

YeOldeTrout · 28/08/2015 22:06

I didn't vote for JC or even like him. I don't think he's anti-semitic, though.

He isn't good at spin so it's easy for his enemies to twist his words or actions to mean weird things JC never said or meant. It's the things JC sincerely means that I don't like (lol).

squidzin · 28/08/2015 22:25

Exactly, YeOld.
Take what is true and make up your mind based on fact.
No need to believe and perpetuate weird shit.

caroldecker · 29/08/2015 00:44

suit yourselves, but his Jew hatred is obvious and inexcusable.

TwistedReach · 29/08/2015 00:54

I'm jewish (by heritage). i think Israel have behaved appallingly and (not because of this) would love Jeremy Corbyn to win and offer us a proper left wing candidate. He is not anti semitic.

BlahBlahUsername · 29/08/2015 01:21

I've voted for him. I hope he wins!

I wonder if Louise Mensch posts here? metro.co.uk/2015/08/22/louise-mensch-tried-to-throw-shade-at-jeremy-corbyn-on-twitter-and-it-went-seriously-wrong-5355939/

MyBeloved · 29/08/2015 07:28

Bubles
You asked why jc should explain why he attended a BDS event. The BDS are anti semitic but hide behind being anti israel. They only last week singled out the only JEWISH (NOT ISRAELI) performer at Spain's Sunsplash festival, and asked him to make a public statement regarding a Palestinian state. When he declined the BDS put so much pressure on Sunsplash they banned him from performing. I will repeat that again - matisyahu was the ONLY JEWISH PERFORMER AND WAS NOT EVEN ISRAELI AND NO OTHER PERFORMER WAS ASKED TO EVEN MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT. Eventually Sunsplash saw sense and realised the BDS are nothing but anti semitic and reinstated matisyahu. He performed but the BDS idiots cat called the whole way through his set.

Now do you see why jc must explain his affiliation with the BDS?

YeOldeTrout · 29/08/2015 09:35

I think JC is naive, that's why he went to these rallies & hasn't quickly distanced self from these groups. Naive is a big problem, as bad as being anti-semitic in the potential leader of the UK.

MyBeloved · 30/08/2015 11:10

My post was in response to blacksunday - not Bubles. ...sorry

squidzin · 30/08/2015 17:37

Not naive,
Brave

Why would he distance himself from campaining for the Boycott of Israeli Goods and intellectual platform, when he is committed to reducing the power of right-wing Isreal?

Obviously this attracts a small but inevitable vocal minority determined to smear him as anti-semite.

Nelson Mandela throughout his career was tarnished a terrorist. A communist terrorist at that.

Mandela's commitment to the South African Sporting boycott was cataclystic in ending apartheid.

He let the accusations fall like water off a ducks back, same as JC.

BrandNewAndImproved · 30/08/2015 17:43

Jez to win ????

squidzin · 30/08/2015 17:54

I think you mean Jez to win ??

MyBeloved · 30/08/2015 19:50

Squidzin

Read my post again. BDS insisted the only Jewish performer at a festival release his stance on israel and Palestine. When he refused as so he should not even being israeli - he's American - they banned him from playing. They asked no other performer to release a statement about what they thought about israel and Palestine. ..only the Jewish one. Not israeli. Jewish.

Bds ia Anti semitic.

Not anti israel .

Corbyn has been on BDS rallies. Anti semitic organisation rallies.

Now do you see the problem?

squidzin · 30/08/2015 19:58

Er... Yes I see the problem that certain minority groups are determined to smear JC as anti-Semitic when he isn't.

JC can't control the actions of all groups all over the world when he is affiliated to hundreds of groups, globally. He is comitted to ending the apartheid-style regime of far-right Isreal...

I can see this argument going on for a long time tbh...

MyBeloved · 30/08/2015 20:23

Would you not hope he would publicly distance himself from such a group?

I would feel happier if he did.

squidzin · 30/08/2015 20:36

"From such a group"
What, a group committed to reducing the power of far-right Isreal through the peaceful means of political boycott?

Not really.

No one ever died from Boycotting goods or intellectual/sporting platform.