Another young black person dies in police custody in the US

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Sandra Bland, a university graduate who had just moved back to South Carolina to work in her old University.

She forgot to signal when changing lanes whilst driving her car & was pulled over. The police officer went OTT and pulled her out of the car & (it seems from heavily edited footage from the police dashcam) had to restrain her.

She was then arrested and kept in jail for a minor traffic violation, and found dead in her cell allegedly having hanged herself.

This picture is her mugshot but may have been doctored after her death

Nicknacky I have no idea what you are talking about.

An 18 year old is dead. Some people have expressed sadness at that.

Why you are pretending that there is some kind of movement to get theft legalised, or whatever it is you are talking about, is beyond me.

Or are you just trying to excuse your earlier lack of compassion?

And for the 3rd time, AFAIK, she was arrested, not convicted. Do you have different information then. That she was guilty. And maybe guilty of something that makes her death acceptable to you.

"Would you feel as sorry for the alleged suspect if he was a 25 year old violent drug user with a long history of offences?"

OMFG

Yes of course! Jesus Christ. She is DEAD.

We don't have the death penalty in this country.

OBVIOUSLY people wouldn't think it was AOK if a 25yo in police custody for theft and violence wound up dead (and it happens in the UK more than it should as well).

My earlier lack of compassion? Because I'm not vocalising sorrow about a person I don't know in another country?

I have no idea as to her guilt or innocence and neither do you. But let's not minimise the offence she had been accused of.

Who mentioned the death penalty?

OMFG

You're a police officer as well, aren't you.

Would you feel as sorry for the alleged suspect if he was a 25 year old violent drug user with a long history of offences?

Noone deserves to die as a result of stealing a phone.

"Would you feel as sorry for the alleged suspect if he was a 25 year old violent drug user with a long history of offences?

Yes I would. Fwiw I was once robbed at knifepoint by a twenty something drug user with a long history of offences.

You're a police officer? Christ almighty.

I don't know Nick is a police officer of not but I would imagine if s/he is then they have slightly more experience of dealing with this kind of thing that anyone else on the thread.

Are we expected to feel sorry for everyone who dies? Regardless of their behaviour?

Yes I am. My first post on the subject said I thought that's Sandra's arrest was an outrage.

Yes I think so, after a few posts in I remembered the name.

Methe you can feel sorry / or not for whoever you like.

I think the death penalty actually has a lot do do with this. African Americans are over represented in the prison system and death row which just goes to show the racism in the USA. (As an aside, studies have suggested that the majority of death row prisoners are brain injured too).

Thank God we don't have the death penalty here.

Do you think some people deserve to die in police custody Methe?

The numbers are horrendous, March.

I don't think anyone should die at the hands of the police.

But what about dying in police custody?

Can I point out that neither of these women were in police custody but under the care of the prison system?

Clearly there is massive issues with Sandra's arrest and if she should even be in custody but the prison have the duty of care towards her while she remained with them.

Deserve to die? No.

There are some people who when they die that I wouldn't feel sorry for whether they died in custody or not. Daniel Pelkas Mother for example.

Where do you get that information from nicknacky?

There is no suggestion that either of these women had done anything like what daniel pelka's mother did.

One of them was arrested after a minor driving infraction.
The other one was arrested on suspicion of theft.

Alleged theft of a mobile phone

Vs

Murder of a child

Not comparable.

I must admit I don't know much about the workings of the US system, when it comes to where people are held after arrest.

As she hadn't been convicted of anything I imagined they were holding her in the local jail, or whatever you call it, where the police officers hang out. To get them moved to a prison I'd imagine they would need some kind of order from the court / remanded without bail type scenario.

Happy to be enlightened on that.

So you would feel sorry for the violent robbing addict mentioned up thread but not her? Why not? Clearly people have different opinions on what makes a person worthy of sorrow.

This discussion is derailing the thread somewhat.No-one should die at the hands of the police, regardless of their race, gender, age or crime. A modern society should be better than that.