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Dog in Vietnam - Upsetting

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Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 09:26

I was looking online and sadly clicked on a story about a dog in Vietnam.

Little girl had lost her dog and a few days later found her dog at the side of the road having been cooked and was offered for sale!

I really cannot stop thinking about it. i know its only a dog and also some countries and cultures have different views to us but fgs....

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Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 09:27

There were some pictures too which made it much much worse

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Branleuse · 31/03/2015 09:31

how would she recognise her dog if it was cooked and in bits for eating?

I call bullshit

Im sorry you're ruminating over an internet story, but people do eat animals all over the world.

PotteringAlong · 31/03/2015 09:33

I've eaten dog in Vietnam. It was tasty.

Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 09:36

She recognised it because it was still in one piece but the paws had been removed. It was trussed up ready to be sold.

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BabyGanoush · 31/03/2015 09:43

It is horrible.

But you could imagine the same scenario with an English girl and a little lamb.

It is fairly arbitrary which animals we eat, and which ones we love as pets.

Really.

SunshineAndShadows · 31/03/2015 09:57

It's not the same scenario as with a UK farm animal, because dogs are not farmed in Vietnam. This is a child's pet stolen by thieves, throat cut and roasted, then discovered by the child. Imagine that was your child, your pet - it's exactly the same.

Pottering your 'tasty' meal would gave been someone's pet. Stolen from southern Vietnam or illegally trafficked across the border from Thailand, likely travelled hundreds of miles without food or water, carrying disease like rabies and distemper, slaughtered by hitting with a shovel or throat cutting without stunning, which can take minutes to cause death. Sadly it's ignorance like yours that justify theft and brutality as a 'cool' 'cultural' experience. The truth is it's neither.

PotteringAlong · 31/03/2015 10:00

It was at a dog festival. It was all they sold. I didn't eat it as a cool cultural experience; I ate it in the same way I eat horse in France and guinea pig in South America. It might not be acceptable here but doesn't mean it's unacceptable everywhere.

CoteDAzur · 31/03/2015 10:05

It must be true if you read it online.

Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 10:08

its gone viral on the internet. I am loathe to share a link tbh.

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Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 10:15

for those who think its rubbish put Vietnam, Flower and dog into google.

Be warned though..

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SunshineAndShadows · 31/03/2015 10:18

It's true - Warning, upsetting link!
metro.co.uk/2015/03/30/heartbreaking-moment-girl-finds-missing-dog-has-been-cooked-5127363/

If you think eating dog in Vietnam is the same as eating horse in France, you need to educate yourself. Attending a dog meat festival is a 'choice' I managed to live in Vietnam for years and not eat dog. Because I understood that dogs were taken from families like the little girl in the news article. Their transport and slaughter is not subject to the same regulation as livestock in Vietnam (or horses in France) because they are not a livestock animal. They are stolen, trafficked and slaughtered in unimaginable black market conditions. And the impact both on the animals and the communities attacked by dog thieves is significant. Horse slaughter in France is a regulated industry that doesn't rely on theft or illegal trade. Not quite the same thing.

Branleuse · 31/03/2015 10:21

aww it is sad with the picture. poor baby. Bit shocked that someone thoufht it was a photo opportunity rather than to shield the child from seeing its dead dog

Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 10:22

I wish I hadnt clicked. I know there are worse things going on in the world. I have been to Vietnam myself and they dont just eat dogs because they have no choice.

It is cultural - however the picture of the young girl, her pet dog stolen and then finding it cooked by some scum bag was what has set me off. if some think that its still Ok, well what if it was your child that came across this? Really you would be that relaxed about it??

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Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 10:26

Branleuse - its not so much the written story, its the picture that has got me.

Yes, why did someone decide to take a picture and then put it on the web - I am hoping that the person was actually looking to show the heartache this practise causes and it wasnt the parent looking to make a quick buck.

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Bakeoffcake · 31/03/2015 10:28

Dd2 travelled around Vietnam last year.

She became a vegetarian within days of being there. Unfortunaltey dead dogs for sale was not an usual thingSad

CoteDAzur · 31/03/2015 13:41

It's just a photo on Reddit, which a nameless stranger says is the photo of a girl who found her dead dog in a meat market. Metro got its story from there, apparently (see comments in your link).

The whole thing reeks of a story made up for propaganda. There isn't a single verifiable detail in the entire story - no names, city, there isn't even a market visible in the photo.

Choose a photo, spin a story, cause anguish in sensitive souls around the world. I don't know what these people did for fun before the internet.

Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 13:45

Point taken Cote - however I have been to Vietnam last year and yes, you do see dogs squashed in cages in very run down shops. They are pushed to the back of the shop but they are sadly there.

Our guide lost their pet dog and said someone in her community stole it and ate it not because they were starving but because its not seen as strange.

The point is that dogs can be kept as pets, its not for some stranger for money reasons to steal it and cook it on the street for all to see.

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SunshineAndShadows · 31/03/2015 15:33

Actually the photo has come from Vietnamese social media and was taken by a Vietnamese person.
It's not a story. Thousands of dogs are stolen and traded each year for meat often taken from family homes - where's the indication that this isn't one of those dogs. There was a documentary on this issue in UK TV last year and its recently been discussed u the Vietnamese government as the issue of dog theft to supply then eat trade is do emotive in Vietnam that pet owners will beat thieves to death.
It's a real issue.

Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 17:10

I think because its such a horrible story with the picture and all that some people dont want to believe it or say its cultural therefore critize at your peril. There are plenty of other things to eat, its one of the countries where I could have been a veggie. italy is another one (but not for the same reason)

You can probably guess I am a dog lover.

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expatinscotland · 31/03/2015 17:15

Meat is meat.

expatinscotland · 31/03/2015 17:16

So because you could be veggie there, everyone else should be? Why not be veggie here, if you have mich concern about animals?

Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 17:21

Expat - could you eat a dog? Honestly?? People arent starving and there is nothing else. There is a choice and they choose to steal a pet belonging to someone else and eat it.

Is all of that OK with you?

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WowOoo · 31/03/2015 17:24

There was a documentary on Unreported World on C4 about this.

It was very sad the way the animals are treated. Horrible cramped conditions.
But BabyGanoush is right. It's arbitrary. If I lived in another culture I might think the way other people gorge themselves on beef, for example, is outrageous.

My friend used to have a pig and I couldn't eat pork for a long time after spending a weekend with them. But I've forgotten all about their lovely pet now.

expatinscotland · 31/03/2015 17:27

Yes, I could. I'll eat any type of meat. You are not starving, why are you eating meat?

Hillingdon · 31/03/2015 17:29

Sometimes something sticks with you forever. My DM who is in her 80's had a pet pig when she was growing up. He loved his tummy being tickled and would run (sort of!) when he saw her.

Unfortunately Mum didnt realise that it was being kept until it was ready to be killed and eaten.

She never ate pork again. Ever!

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