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Ann Maguire RIP

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OneSkinnyChip · 03/11/2014 18:38

I hope today's verdict brings her family some peace.

The motives of her killer are impossible to fathom Sad

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LuckyLopez · 03/11/2014 18:40

Awful wasn't it? He chased her down the corridor when she went for help. How terrifying Sad

Sparklingbrook · 03/11/2014 18:41

It defies belief. And the lack of remorse. just awful.

lemonpoppyseed · 03/11/2014 19:10

Absolutely. One detail that particularly troubles me is that he told fellow pupils/posted on FB that he was going to do it. How tragic that no-one reported those threats.

doobledootch · 03/11/2014 19:13

It really is one of those news stories that just leaves you shaking your head in disbelief. I can't even imagine what her poor family must be going through.

RIP Ann.

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OneSkinnyChip · 03/11/2014 19:29

I couldn't help wishing that just one of the other pupils had showed a bit of common sense and reported it to someone, especially if the murderer kept repeating his intention to harm her.

Of course they probably thought he was just bragging and being silly.

She just looked like such a lovely person. Such a gorgeous smile and her personality shown out in her photos. I hope her family are comforted by the huge and sincere outpouring of grief by all who knew her.

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SirChenjin · 03/11/2014 19:34

Just so sad - and like all of you, can't begin to imagine what the family must be going to. I hope they get some of the strength and courage they need from all the messages of support and love from those who knew her and beyond.

Ikeameatballs · 03/11/2014 19:43

I was listening to this being discussed on the radio today.

I thought it was really helpful for the police to say that no one could have reasonably predicted this dreadful act. I suspect the friends who heard his threats and did nothing will struggle with this even more as they become adults but it seems that his outward normality meant that they were viewed as insignificant.

An absolute tragedy.

Behoove · 03/11/2014 19:44

Flowers for her family

LeBearPolar · 03/11/2014 20:07

I imagine those pupils that he told he intended to murder her on the morning of the murder are going to find this very difficult to come to terms with.

As a teacher, you never imagine that this might happen in all the things you envisage happening with your classes, however difficult the students. I can't imagine how shocked and frightened she must have been. Sad I always feel safe in my classroom.

LapsedTwentysomething · 03/11/2014 20:09

I find this chilling. As a secondary teacher who has to deal with plenty of awful behaviour it frightens me TBH.

RIP Ann Maguire.

BikeRunSki · 03/11/2014 20:18

I know one of her daughters professionally (osteopath), and she is the most kind, calm and gentle person I have ever met. When the story broke on local news, my blood ran cold as I realised the connection. I'd never understood about blood actually running cold until then. When I saw footage of the family on the news and realised that I was right, I couldn't stop crying. It's horrific, absolutely horrific. I usually try to see both sides of a story, but for this, I just can't.

RIP Ann, and God bless your family.

Abra1d · 03/11/2014 20:20

Ann Maguire really seemed like one of those people the world can't afford to lose. Perhaps those whom the gods love most really do go first.

Mrsgrumble · 03/11/2014 20:24

RIP to a very special, beautiful, kind and upstanding member of the profession.

My her family find the strength to cope with their very sad loss xxxx

Cannot fathom the motive for this loss at all :(

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OneSkinnyChip · 03/11/2014 21:30

I hadn't read that article above.

I feel very sad for his family too. I'm sure they are just reeling with disbelief, especially at his lack of remorse. It sounds like they are decent people.

And YY Lapsed. I don't think people understand just how out of control some young people are. Working in the classroom really is being on the frontline in some places. Of course it's all the more extraordinary that such a terrible thing happened in what seems like a good school, at the hands of a pupil who seemed to have everything going for him.

It's all such a terrible waste and it would be easier somehow if it was just 'a moment of madness' but it's the premeditation that makes it all so chilling.

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hackmum · 04/11/2014 08:29

It's incredibly sad. All the reports about her suggest that she was universally loved and admired: one of those rare people who is willing to go the extra mile for everyone.

Like, I imagine, everyone else, I was expecting the boy who killed her to have been the victim of early neglect and brutality, as violent young men so often are. What a shock to find that he came from an apparently normal, loving family and that at least until age 11 or 12, he'd been considered a sweet and thoughtful child. It's all very hard to explain.

DontGotoRoehampton · 04/11/2014 15:49

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RosieProbert · 04/11/2014 16:05

Dontgo
What a totally fucking stupid thing to say. Honestly, either youare being deliberately provocative or you are a massive twat. Vile.

Ohnodisaster · 04/11/2014 16:17

But why did none of them say anything to anyone?
Surely a rumour must have gone round the school?

DontGotoRoehampton · 04/11/2014 16:21

This vile culture of 'don't snitch' had fatal results.

CaptainJaneSafeway · 04/11/2014 16:26

It's way too much to ask of other 15yos that they be able to tell what's a genuine threat and what's just bravado, and they shouldn't have to take responsibility for this. We don't even know if any of them did report what they heard. Maybe it was adults who decided not to act.

Ohnodisaster · 04/11/2014 16:30

Yes-I don't agree that they should e anyway implicated in it. Just find it strange that in a fairly 'naice' school, no one thought to report the fact that he was showing knives to people.
But as you say-it may have been reported (in which case it really should have been investigated immediately Sad)

Abra1d · 05/11/2014 08:10

I don't think they should be 'blamed' but I just can't imagine either of my teenagers and their cohort at that age not saying something to someone. Even if just an older pupil.

hackmum · 05/11/2014 08:41

"Just find it strange that in a fairly 'naice' school, no one thought to report the fact that he was showing knives to people."

I agree. My teenage DD and her friends would, I'm fairly sure, tell either their parents or a teacher if they knew something like this. Even if they thought it was just bravado, they'd know to tell someone.

BobPatandIgglePiggle · 05/11/2014 08:48

Sometimes it's just not taken seriously. We had a guest speaker in at school quite recently and one of the students admitted to her, quite openly, that he sometimes carries a knife.
I slipped out of the talk to call one of slt about it, assuming it would be taken very seriously.

I was very wrong. Manager said 'I'll have a chat when I see him next'

Myself and another teacher decided that wasn't good enough and escorted the student to his office and insisted he turned out his pockets and bag.

No follow up has been done AT ALL.