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Feeling really shocked by this, so close to home...

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Aimsmum · 30/09/2006 20:37

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Aimsmum · 30/09/2006 23:17

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Aimsmum · 30/09/2006 23:19

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Pixiefish · 30/09/2006 23:22

OMG- read the Op and saw expat's comment.

Am so upset for you aimsmum and for that poor girls family.

Also totally scared that there are probably people like that in all our communities

MrsMuddle · 30/09/2006 23:23

I feel really sad about this. I'm from Glasgow too, and visit asylum seekers in this area through my job. Some of them go to this church and have children that go to school nearby. Although I'm not religious at all, I also feel heartbroken for the priest. His trust has been betrayed in the worst possible way. And that poor girl's sister and father. I'm presuming the man wasn't disclosure checked as he wasn't working with children or vulnerable adults. I understood that he was an odd-job man. Although it's tragic, I can't see what else the church could have done. They can't wait for 4 weeks for a disclosure to come through every time someone seeks refuge there. The whole situation is awful.

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Aimsmum · 30/09/2006 23:34

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Pann · 01/10/2006 00:19

My word. This thread IS being populated by the 'fearfully excited' isn't it?

Take a deep breath and put some perspective to it?

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Aimsmum · 01/10/2006 00:22

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PretendFriend · 01/10/2006 00:27

I think most of us would be anxious knowing something like this had happened next door to our child's primary school, Pann.

Pann · 01/10/2006 00:36

Yes, I totally understand that. I would be the very same.
But, we don't know the full facts, as yet, and we do seem to be riding off on some vague info. released to the press/media so far.
Placing someone as guilty prior to the process of law is always tricky eg the murderers of Stephen Lawrence?
And, expats comments on death for such offenders was particularly irksome.
Yes, be immediatly concerned, but awaiting til more is known would be handy?

PretendFriend · 01/10/2006 00:38

Hm - not sure the Lawrence case is relevant here (and those little shits are guilty as hell )

curiosity · 01/10/2006 00:40

Yes, but they'll never get a "fair hearing" because of the trial by media, therefore justice will never be served.

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Aimsmum · 01/10/2006 00:46

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josephjaidensmum · 01/10/2006 00:47

i never unsterstand wht dont they give them Life and Life mean life.
or cut all their bits off then look them up
they give longer sentances for lesser crimes,
i think its digusting, u can never really no eho these people r

PretendFriend · 01/10/2006 00:47

Is that why they got off before? (I saw a prog recently but thought the evidence wasn't strong enough due to police mismanagement)

Pann · 01/10/2006 00:48

Indeed curoiu...

With our experience of 'she who musn't be mentioned', our site could very easily be cited by a defence to this very point.

Also, he has no conviction for murder. And, it is curious as to why the police do not identify the body as that of the suspected victim. I read that there is even doubt on the gender of the victim? Which does suggest something more than a 'very simple' sex attack and murder to hid evidence.

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Aimsmum · 01/10/2006 00:57

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Pann · 01/10/2006 01:02

Well, last I looked, the body hasn't been identified, now so many hours later. And I see that she has a boyfriend who is assisting police.
Not making this man's case out at all, bit there does appear to be a few anomalies in this case.

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Aimsmum · 01/10/2006 01:12

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Pann · 01/10/2006 01:16

Totally agree about your feelings over it. As I said, I would be the same.
I simply objected to the feeding frenzy developing on what is, so far, a coincidence. eg he has already been spoken to by the poice, and let go.
Boyfriend question? The most effective murder enquiries very often commence with those closest to home.

risingsun · 01/10/2006 01:20

Pann-Not sure your wording of
"a very simple sex attack and murder to hide the evidence" is appropriate.

There is nothing simple about a sex attack or murder for the victim.

PretendFriend · 01/10/2006 01:21

Huntley was questioned and let go too (and he had sex offences in his past).

This guy obviously lied about who he was. You can argue that with his background he would be an obvious suspect even if innocent, but he was the last person known to see her (like Huntley)

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Aimsmum · 01/10/2006 01:25

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Pann · 01/10/2006 01:28

risingsun - which is why I placed it in inverted commas?

Yes, Ian Huntley was questioned and let go, Was he convicted previously, or, was there lots of police intelligence about his behaviour? Not sure which.

And yes, if I was inocent of this and a girl went missing, I too would be on the first bus out of town.

Why are we still not informed of the identity of the victim?

PretendFriend · 01/10/2006 01:31

No, Huntley had no convictions, due to various earlier cock-ups by different police forces (partly because of lack of national database - have they got one yet???)

risingsun · 01/10/2006 01:34

Apoligies Pann, did'nt see that.

I still find it surprising that they did not search the church more throughly earlier on when she first went missing.