Little boy has been removed from hospital by his parents

[Itsfab]

He is very sick, needs constant treatment. His parents have taken him to France.

I don't understand why the hospital didn't notice or alert the police for 6 hours.

The police won't comment on the parents being Jehovah's Witnesses.

It sounds wrong when the statement said he was removed without consent. The child is theirs, should be allowed to be in charge of him, but of course it is he that will lose his life if not cared for and that isn't in his best interests necessarily.

I hope he is found and can be cured.

We must also think about implications of this family's other children. It is possible that while child care proceedings are ongoing - we presume for neglect - their other children under 16 may (at worst) be placed under interim court orders. Or at best they could become subject to child protection plans.

In theory they could be separated from ALL their children for a number of months.

I just pray that the police come to their senses and let these poor parents free to be with their son who needs them desperately.

Apologies if you are already aware of these links, but if you want to support the family - please consider looking at the following:

Petition:

www.change.org/p/police-david-cameron-and-co-release-brett-and-naghemeh-and-allow-them-to-choose-treatment-for-son-ashya?share_id=fKLEpgwqAy&utm_campaign=share_button_action_box&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

twitter.com/Fight4AshyaKing

www.facebook.com/groups/1462059947403801/?fref=ts

Disgraceful scaremongering from the authorities, hinting about Jehovah's Witnesses refusing treatment, or the boy starving if the batteries ran out.

The doctor in charge seems to have either terrible communication skills or to have threatened to stop the parents seeing their child unless they stop questioning his authority.
An enquiry must establish what happened, to improve procedures and clarify parents' rights.

Cancer survival rates are much lower in the UK than in some other EU countries which use newer technology and very expensive gadgets.
The NHS has strict budget limitations on expensive cancer treatments where the prognosis is poor e.g. they refused some breast cancer drugs for older women on cost grounds.
They always claim treatments are unproven or side effects unknown - funny that other countries don't think so.

I fear the authorities are now trying to cover up their embarrassment by hammering the parents.
Also, I read that if they allowed the Czech treatment, then under EU law the NHS might still be liable for the bill - many hundred thousand quid. So, our lords & masters want to stop more people trying this and potentially costing the NHS many millions in future.

But isn't the whole point that the press / hospital didn't know that they had all that? Otherwise the story would be 'couple planned an escape from conventional treatment'

I think mrsdevere the press, police and SGH thought they could manipulate the public with a non story about religious beliefs.

Thankfully joe public are brighter than they would think us to be.

Yes nerf I get that and can agree to some extent. But surely given recent conversations between the hospital and the parents about the parents desperation to find the best treatment for him that the thought of them not making arrangements would be bizarre?

If I remember correctly SGH were saying that it was not possible to charge the battery any other way. This now appears to have been a lie.

If an Emergency protection Order has been granted, it needs to be challenged. From what I have read there are no lawful grounds for this kind of order. Of course, there may be things going on that we don't know about.

I am a lawyer who works in child protection and I seem to spend most of my time on line trying to argue that at state usually acts in the best interests of the child.

Perhaps I should just shut up shop now and admit defeat. This appears to be so very wrong on every level.

Even if the parents do turn out to be insane, manipulative liars the fact that they felt they had no option but to leave the country is a sad indictment of a failure on part of medical profession to communicate and engage.

And the fact that the official response has apparently been so heavy handed and so lacking in compassion for any member of the family is revolting.

MrsDevere, do you have a link to Naveeds latest vblog?

I just want to add that I agree with everything MrsD and Spero have said. I am a social worker, so get quite defensive on these threads and do think that - for the most part - the state does act in the best interests of the child/ren. In this case, I am really quite disgusted.

m.youtube.com/user/NaveedKingvlogs

It's there, on his YouTube account

So, there is no neglect, there is no crime, so what grounds will the UK use to extradite the parents?

What do you all think will happen to the other children? Will they be left with the big Brother in Spain? Will someone fly the Grandmother over to be with them? She was worthy of having her home searched, so they must rate her as being close to the family.

What was he trying to say about the BBC item cutting out information?

I think he said grans comments were cut out on an issue important to the case. BBC may have felt that breached data protection or may be part of child care case?

So BBC know something they can't report. Now I see why when they were interviewing the police they questioned them so hard, they seemed very much on the side of the family.

Looking at Martin Narey's triumphalism at adoption rates going up and this deliberate trampling over human rights with hob nailed boots and weak, disingenuous arguments, it's almost as if they are in the pay of the forced adoption lot. I despair. I have no come back to this sort of thing, because there is no come back. The state cannot act in this way. Or the next people they come for will be you and I.

Daily Mail now posted new article with comments section open...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2739200/Pictured-Parents-Ashya-leave-court-transfer-Madrid-grandmother-five-year-old-attacks-police-arresting-couple.html#readerCommentsCommand-message-field

I've shared the links on FB and Twitter :
Petition:

www.change.org/p/police-david-cameron-and-co-release-brett-and-naghemeh-and-allow-them-to-choose-treatment-for-son-ashya?share_id=fKLEpgwqAy&utm_campaign=share_button_action_box&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

twitter.com/Fight4AshyaKing

www.facebook.com/groups/1462059947403801/?fref=ts

Please consider doing the same - hoping some public pressure will help support the family x

GimmeMySquash - agreed, was curious what he was referring to there. Really hoping the family are getting good legal advice. Can't believe after all this Southampton NHS trust are advising Spanish hospital on his treatment. The whole case though seems totally unbelievable.