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Nigel Farage Taken Apart in Landmark LBC Radio Interview with James O’Brien

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ttosca · 16/05/2014 19:17

UKIP leader Nigel Farage must now regret his decision to challenge LBC Radio’s James O’Brien to a debate today over the broadcaster’s criticisms of the party . In a dazzling example of gloves-off political interview technique, O’Brien came armed to the teeth with awkward questions that left Farage floundering. We need more of this.

www.scriptonitedaily.com/2014/05/16/nigel-farage-taken-apart-in-landmark-lbc-radio-interview-with-james-obrien/

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Sedgewick · 02/01/2017 10:54

Craig - you lost the argument when you tried to position Trump and Farage as an alternative to spin.

You should listen to Trump admitting on camera that he hated the phrase "Drain the swamp" and only used it on the advice of his advisors.

Sorry, spin doctors.

He said it. Then he practiced saying it "with feeling".

To his delight, he found it "played well" with crowds. So, he kept repeating it.

Then he becomes president elect and APPOINTS THE ESTABLISHMENT to his cabinet.

If that is not spin - then nothing is.

Successfully constructing a "man of the people" image for a privileged pair like Farage, and Trump, is a huge achievement for them.

And a huge failing for their respective countries.

On some level, you know all this.

You're not daft, after all. Just malicious.

The fact that some members of the left wing establishment dislike them, is not, as you suggest, because they are anti-establishment.

It's because some people hate racist thugs.

And that's how simple it is.

If you think that Brexit was not about immigration, you haven't spoken to many Brexiteers.

Nor do you seem conscience of the huge spike in hate crime against immigrants (and British people of different races) since the result was announced.

Now, you suggest that we can save democracy by appointing right wingers to run the show....

Because right wing extremism has such a great reputation with democracy, doesn't it?

Open up a history book.

If the left are "crying into our beer" as you delightedly suggest, we are mostly crying for you.

Because ultimately you are responsible for what happens next.

And I don't think you realise what a huge responsibility that is yet.

Be it on your head, not ours.

areyoubeingserviced · 02/01/2017 11:04

Claig - need to get you facts right. James O Brian went to Oxbridge and prefers to work for LBC because he is free to say what he wants

JustAnotherPoster00 · 02/01/2017 11:34

Love watching the MN kippers squirm Grin

claig · 02/01/2017 11:41

'James O Brian went to Oxbridge '

Wikipedia says about O'Brien

"He was educated at the independent Ampleforth College and the London School of Economics.[2] Politically, O'Brien has been described as "coming from the left"[2] and sometimes describes himself as a "champagne socialist" in jest.[3]"

Public school and left wing and "champagne socialist" so he should fit right in at the Establishment BBC, and the fact that the Establishment watched with glee as he grilled the people's politician, Farage, means that he was probably snapped up for the service of the Establishment.

Lillillil · 02/01/2017 13:59

No ones squirming brexit won. If we can't blame our membership of the EU for the banking crisis, housing crisis, education etc., then by the same token we can't blame rising prices etc for the fact that we voted to leave. Well a majority did anyway. Can't have it both ways that's spin isn't it. Also automatically assuming voting leave makes you an automatic racist tell that to the many people who voted leave who are not of UK origin.

Megatherium · 02/01/2017 14:09

Lillillil, you have noticed what's happened to the pound since Brexit, haven't you? If you really think rising prices have nothing to do with Brexit then you are being very naive indeed.

DeviTheGaelet · 02/01/2017 14:54

What did our membership of the EU have to do with the banking crisis? Confused
People say some really strange things

lalalonglegs · 02/01/2017 15:05

Lillillil - it is disingenuous to suggest that people who "aren't from the UK" can't be racist. I know many people from ethnic minorities who were born overseas who say outrageous things about people who are not from their ethnic group (although not all the people from minorities that I know are like this I hasten to add). And, yes, those of them that were able to vote, voted Leave.

Like Devi, I am confused by your banking crisis point as I believe the banking crisis originated in the US although its knock-on effects became global.

Sedgewick · 02/01/2017 15:14

Lillilil, no one is saying that everyone who voted for Brexit is a racist.

However, a significant proportion must have been since the Leave campaign was built on calculatedly exploits people's racial prejudices.

No wonder then, that incidents of hate crime spiked immediately after the Brexit vote.

What we're saying is - what a shame such a racist, cowardly, dishonest man like Farage has gotten away with conning the British public.

What you're saying is - so? What about Blair? What about the banking crisis?

No wonder we're confused...

Lillillil · 02/01/2017 15:22

The world is a very different place post 9/11. I think the banking crisis and turmoil in the markets happened post 9/11 when suddenly it was a different world and a more dangerous world. America suffered huge loss as did the City of London with the terrible loss of life.

DeviTheGaelet · 02/01/2017 15:47

Lilli you sound like a chat bot
What does 9/11 have to do with Brexit or the banking crisis? It's almost like you don't want us talking about Nigel Farage for some reason

Sedgewick · 02/01/2017 16:05

So what do you think of Nigel Farage, Lillillil?

Let me put that a different way - what do you think of Nigel Farage?

And what do you think of Nigel Farage?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 02/01/2017 23:26

Not every Leave voter is racist but all racists voted Leave

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 03/01/2017 14:06

Nigel Farage is always on LBC

This is the problem the amount of airtime he gets and he will once again manipulate his being got at as the people he represents not being listened to

It will one again become a home goal the best solution is to stop giving him so much air time

Alfieisnoisy · 03/01/2017 14:14

I don't care how establishment James O'Brien is. Fact is he made Farage look the dick he really is. That on it snow own is enough for me.

So many deaths this year and unforgivably I am about to add "all the wrong people".

Trump, Farage , Kim Jong whatever....none of them would be much of a loss to the world. Hideous people.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 03/01/2017 14:35

You didn't know Farage was a dick before

His supporters are not going to have changed their minds listening to him gettting yet another grilling or him making a ridiculous statement he can not back up because he is for many their voice they agree with him on many issues

Why are intelligent journalists constantly playing into this nonsense. He gets more airtime that any MP, he gets a ridiculous amount of space in all newspapers and yet they are still queuing up to give him a good bashing and while doing this Farage is laughing becuase once again he is gaining more of an audience

I can't believe this is still going on 6 months after the referendum and all it is doing is paving the way with a high amount of media attention for yet another return to politics

Well done the BBC and LBC for helping to support his career oh and of course he always brings with him bigger audiences

Sedgewick · 03/01/2017 21:07

Well said - EnthusiasmisDisturbed.

The thing I have always particularly disliked about Farage is his veneer of being an ordinary, reasonable man who just - tells it like it is.

His schtick goes something like this:

Foreigners - they're a bit weird aren't they? Not like us. I've got nothing against them mind(!!) - they just make me uncomfortable. I don't like to hear foreign languages on the train.....

But I'm not racist though....

Of course not.

So, I wonder why he goes about the world toadying up to far right extremists - even backing Trump?

You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep.

So, if I could encapsulate my loathing of Farage, it is that he has NORMALISED racism.

All the silly prejudices people have - he's said - it's fine! It's us against them! Let's take our country back...

Not that he stops at racism - he normalises so much sh*tty behaviour.

When Trump's was on tape admitting to sexual assault, Farage said: "'It's the kind of thing, if we are being honest, that men do. They sit around and have a drink and they talk like this"

No.

Men do not talk like this.

Men say stuff like: "Cor, she's fit!" "Wouldn't mind a bit of that!" "I'd love to give her one!"

Annoying yes - but standard.

What they DON'T all do is say:

"I don't even wait" "can't help it" "I just start kissing them" "I grab them by the pussy".

Never, never, never did I think I would live to see the day, when the people of America voted in a sexual abuser - in full knowledge of it...

12 women accused him of sexual assault....and no one cared.

Sorry Farage - what did you say? Still friends with him? Even though only a fool could think it was "all talk" at this stage!? Of course you are.

Of COURSE you are...

Because you're a smug, smarmy, small-minded weasel who causes hard working poor people a lot of trouble, and then slithers away into the undergrowth.

Because what he did was pitch the poor against the poor.

The working classes against the immigrants.

Both groups desperately trying to eek out a small living in times when housing and transport costs are skyrocketing, and living standards, the pound, school places and NHS beds are plummeting.

Why didn't people lift their heads away from the daily toil and not look at the immigrants working next to them for their grain of rice - and ask where all the money was.

The UK and USA are rich, rich lands of plenty. There is so much much money - and none of it is yours.

I am sorry that no one noticed Farage's offshore trust fund and his refusal to share his tax returns.

I am sorry that no one questioned whether a "man of the people" would brag about not paying his taxes like Trump does....and not release his tax return.

I am sorry no one asked questions.

Or not enough.

Or too late.

Because what we have right now, is a moneyed former trader and a billionaire to the manor born, deciding on our future and our children's future.

We've been robbed - literally robbed.

Again.

And this time in broad daylight.

Tanith · 03/01/2017 22:53

claig: Labour favourite luvvie and BBC regular, Alan Johnson, Establishment favourite, said on This Week that the one good thing he hopes comes out of 2016 is that Farage leaves the country and moves to America. The luvvies hate Farage because he is their nemesis.

Alan Johnson is a luvvie?? Alan Johnson?!! GrinGrin

Have you any idea even of who he is? It doesn't sound like it and you certainly appear to know nothing about his background!
He is far more deserving of the title of People's Politician than Nigel Farage!

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 03/01/2017 23:05

That is funny Grin

claig · 04/01/2017 01:26

'Have you any idea even of who he is? It doesn't sound like it and you certainly appear to know nothing about his background! '

Yes I know his background and his book and have watched him for years and know that he is the elite's luvvie whom they wanted to promote as Labour leader instead of Corbyn if he could have been persuaded to stand etc. I know he supports all the Establishment's policies which is why they much prefer him to Corbyn.

I use the term "luvvie" not for just an actor but for the Establishment's favourites and that is Alan Johnson through and through, the person the Establishment think will get the people to vote Labour because he is more normal than the rest of the dingbats.

claig · 04/01/2017 01:30

I am sure that unlike Corbyn, Alan Johnson is also favoured by the BBC's James O'Brien, griller of the man the BBC dislikes, Nigel Farage

JustAnotherPoster00 · 04/01/2017 01:33

12 women accused him of sexual assault....and no one cared.

Urgh cant believe I'm gonna stick up for this cock womble but thats all an accusation is is an accusation if he was guilty of them then that would have been different Confused

claig · 04/01/2017 01:37

Bad news for the BBC, Alan Johnson, BBC favourite, who said something like the only good thing of 2016 may be that Farage moves to the United States permanently, even the Guardian's political sketchwriter makes Farage politician of the year. Poor old Cameron, he gets "sunk without trace".

"Politician of the year – Nigel Farage

We weren’t overburdened with contenders in 2016; most politicians covered themselves in everything but glory. But Farage has to go down as the century’s most successful UK politician."

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/30/man-of-2016-nigel-farage-alternative-new-year-awards

claig · 04/01/2017 01:39

JustAnotherPoster00, I read a headline the other day that all charges have been dropped, but didn't read the whole article so I don't know if it is true.

Sedgewick · 04/01/2017 04:45

Yes, Claig. The charges by "Jane Doe" a woman who accused Trump of raping her when she was a 13 year old girl were ALSO dropped.

Her lawyer said she was threatened and intimidated by Trump's cronies and feared for her life.

So she dropped them.

Always ask "why" not just "what".

Of course, Trump doesn't have any bullying or sexual inappropriate tendencies so I'm sure it can't be true.

Funny how you can be taped admitting to sexual molestation. And still people say...but the TWELVE women who accused him dropped their cases!

Um...he admitted it already folks. And it is bloody weird if all twelve dropped their cases. I'd probably look into that one...

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