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Oscar Pistorius Trial Part 7

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Roussette · 08/05/2014 11:55

here is Part 6. Nearly time for a new one.

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AmIthatSpringy · 14/05/2014 08:26

That's interesting Looking and it makes me question my own values in how I view people in RL.

re the trial, I'm off to work and I have bloody meetings most of the morning, so will barely have time to have a sneaky peak at the thread and twitter.

Hopefully will have time at lunchtime to catch up. but not on the Nel love bleughhhh

LookingThroughTheFog · 14/05/2014 08:41

I just can't imagine NPD providing mitigating circumstances for a crime, whereas with an anxiety disorder, it just seems a bit more 'worthy'.

I think it's how responsible for your own reactions having the disorder makes you.

Anxiety can make you do astonishingly strange things. Apart from the physical results, you can act impulsively, instinctively in ways that you simply can't control (screaming, shaking, hitting yourself or someone/something else). The adrenalin that's flooding you at that moment can make your actions into something you're not quite able to control.

With something like NPD, it can be emotionally very difficult to act in a certain way - for example, for taking the blame for something or admitting a fault. It can feel like a physical pain, a physical block, but the action is without that impulsive action that you might have in panic mode. There is some element of choice - you can either push through the pain and do the hard thing (admitting your own fault) or you can rush to the easier thing of deflecting blame. It feels like an instinct, but it's not quite the same as a compulsion.

I realise that that second paragraph looks as if I'm talking about OP, but I swear that's entirely coincidental. I have no idea whether he has NPD or not, and viewing his actions purely on the stressful situation of the trial.

In fact I was thinking about someone I know who acted in an astonishingly foot-stamping, heartbroken way when they were forced to face the consequences of their own actions. It was strange to watch this grown (elderly) woman fighting utterly desperately to make it not her fault, and the bile that she came out with in a desperate attempt to make the playing field level again. (She got over it - by the following day her brain had simply decided that non of it had happened, and while she got agitated if it was mentioned again, she also closed down entirely and refused to let the subject in.)

member · 14/05/2014 08:41

Roux and Nel meeting with Judge in chambers atm

LookingThroughTheFog · 14/05/2014 08:43

Twitter reports are looking surprisingly not-good for the defence.

AmIthatSpringy · 14/05/2014 08:43

From reaction in court via twitter it looks like it's been granted.

member · 14/05/2014 08:44

Roux apparently having quiet word with OP - described as looking grim, OP looking resigned

LookingThroughTheFog · 14/05/2014 08:45

If so, it'll be a short day today, which is good because I have stuff to do.

AnyaKnowIt · 14/05/2014 08:48

Why would they be in chambers?

member · 14/05/2014 08:50

To get advanced notice of Judges decision? To make a final argument? Uncle Arnold, Roux & OP have had a laugh apparently.

LookingThroughTheFog · 14/05/2014 08:50

I suspect they get a sneak peek of her decision, Anya.

bobblewobble · 14/05/2014 08:52

Just seen on updates that if it is not granted the next witness is the surgeon who amputated OP legs.

member · 14/05/2014 08:52

OP's personal psychologist approaches Roux

LookingThroughTheFog · 14/05/2014 08:54

Nel isn't in there yet. I was wondering.

member · 14/05/2014 08:54

There was speculation earlier that if granted, OP's team would apply for observation to be done as an outpatient.

member · 14/05/2014 08:55

State advocates Nel, Johnson & Captain Van Aardt not in court room atm

member · 14/05/2014 09:00

Here we go...

AnyaKnowIt · 14/05/2014 09:01

It's live on channel 517

member · 14/05/2014 09:02

Judge refers to defence "strangely" opposing application.

Springing · 14/05/2014 09:02

I was wondering if I'd heard that right - the "strangely". Interesting.

Crazeeladee · 14/05/2014 09:05

I'm confused...... .

member · 14/05/2014 09:06

Judge doesn't agree with defence that no allegation made and believes allegation substantiated by Dr Vorster

AnyaKnowIt · 14/05/2014 09:06

Me too, just get on with m'lady

Crazeeladee · 14/05/2014 09:09

So it looks like he Is being referred?

RoadKillBunny · 14/05/2014 09:10

She is going to grant the referral. All seems to be leaning that way.

member · 14/05/2014 09:10

Yes

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