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Oscar Pistorius Trial Part 7

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Roussette · 08/05/2014 11:55

here is Part 6. Nearly time for a new one.

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LookingThroughTheFog · 12/05/2014 09:37

Snap.

member · 12/05/2014 09:38

Cross post Fog. The house has now been sold a/c to reports on Friday so wonder what Frank's fate will be?

AnyaKnowIt · 12/05/2014 09:38

Looks like it. Thought the house had been sold?

Chipstick10 · 12/05/2014 09:40

Why did it just cut off on sky coverage ?

voiceofgodot · 12/05/2014 09:46

Thanks again mary for the BB link. Interesting to read Barry's official interpretation of events so far, rather than his stream of Tweets. I have to say it's pretty damning of the defence's case.

AnyaKnowIt · 12/05/2014 09:50

Tea break chipstick

GoshAnneGorilla · 12/05/2014 10:00

Of course the defence have to rebut the state. The burden lies with the sTate to prove their version of events occurred beyond all reasonable doubt, thus it makes sense to cast doubt on the state's version.

Particularly in a case such as this where there is limited room to manoeuvre over what actually happened. What shimmering piece of proof are people expecting the defence to come up with?

So.

Some witnesses say they heard a woman scream. Witnesses closer to the scene say not.

Prosecution alledges that OP's emotional state is insincere and adapted for effect. Several defence witnesses indicate that OP was and continues to be distraught.

With the ballistics, the biggest thing Wolmarans is doing is casting doubt on the State's assertions.

It's all about chipping away at the certainties asserted by the state.

Also, of course the defence are responding to what the state have said, that's how it works and why the state have to show the defence what their case is and why the state goes first.

member · 12/05/2014 10:01

Defence looking slightly agitated - oh, because no report till now again Shock

RonaldMcDonald · 12/05/2014 10:05

Panic buttons are usually littered around the house.
Depends on your house though, I can only speak of what I know. It is clear OP had them and that there was one also on his fob. Standard in alarm systems.
Usually there will be a panic button near your bed, by the passage. If you have an internal lockable door one on your side of it
One by the front door at least ( IME )
There is usually a panic alarm on your alarm fob...on your keys ....and on all the alarm pads
These are linked directly to an armed fast response security service
They make promises about the time it will take them to get to your property. With security doors etc you exit stage left and buy time for them to arrive. Use your gun as a last option.

LookingThroughTheFog · 12/05/2014 10:06

Psychiatrist now.

AnyaKnowIt · 12/05/2014 10:12

So what was the point of the social worker if there is a physciatrist now?

SpeedwellBlue · 12/05/2014 10:14

His dad sounds like a waste of space. No wonder he has a strained relationship with him.

AnyaKnowIt · 12/05/2014 10:15

But enough of a relationship to store amno?

LookingThroughTheFog · 12/05/2014 10:15

I'm going to find this witness extremely hard to listen to.

I was going to say why, but I'm going to skip that. I'm just not going to listen, but would appreciate to hear if she comes out with anything amazingly pertinent. I'll follow on Twitter.

In short - we all have stuff going on. Lots of us are massively fucked up by our parents. The vast majority of us don't go on to kill someone accidentally or otherwise. I know that this is utter bias on my part, and I won't discount the witness entirely. It just makes me massively upset, so I can't listen.

Roussette · 12/05/2014 10:17

This is an interesting report from the psychiatrist. One thought that occurs to me - she says OP has an anxiety disorder and I just wonder how he copes with competitive sport and the stress from that.

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AnyaKnowIt · 12/05/2014 10:17

I agree looking, hope you are ok

Roussette · 12/05/2014 10:19

Looking - yes it is uncomfortable listening and the only pertinent fact to come out is him having an anxiety disorder. Does that excuse anything I wonder.

Adjournment now.

OP posts:
msrisotto · 12/05/2014 10:33

Are you watching online or is this televised anywhere in the uk?

member · 12/05/2014 10:34

When did his father ask him if he could look after his .38 ammunition?

Roussette · 12/05/2014 10:36

Risotto here although they are on break at the mo

OP posts:
AnyaKnowIt · 12/05/2014 10:36

news.sky.com/story/1259691/oscar-pistorius-murder-trial-live-updates
I'm watching is herem

AnyaKnowIt · 12/05/2014 10:38

Wasn't his father at the bail hearing?

StackALee · 12/05/2014 10:40

"Some witnesses say they heard a woman scream. Witnesses closer to the scene say not...

It's all about chipping away at the certainties asserted by the state."

But by producing 'witnesses' who were asleep so heard nothing, doesn't mean they have chipped away at anything.

far better would have been people who were awake but heard nothing.

StackALee · 12/05/2014 10:41

"Wasn't his father at the bail hearing?"

he was...

Also, the phone logs show that his father was called from pistorius' phone in the early morning of 14th Feb.

04.01.38 – Call from Oscar’s Phone to Heinrich Pistorius – 54 Seconds

voiceofgodot · 12/05/2014 10:42

Stack - wasn't that actually a phone call to his brother, who goes by the name of Carl but is actually called Heinrich? (I could be wrong, sorry...)