Missing Malaysian Airlines MH-370 - Thread 6

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A preliminary report into the disappearance to be released next week

It doesn't take a genius singer. And if they were so confident that wouldn't be "expanding the search to land".

And it's pretty much fallen off the news now.

I really don't want to get all 'tin foil hat' about it but the whole thing is weird.

It's on sky news today. Saying that there is a chance it could never be found.

That isn't exactly news though, some people here have been saying it all along. Given the enormity of the search area and the conditions in one of the most remote parts of the planet, the search teams weren't that likely to have found something before it sank.

I have seen speculation that it was flown to DG, unloaded then flown across the Southern Ocean and allowed to run out of fuel after the pilot parachuted, but to what end? And presumably the passengers would have been killed to stop news leaking so the outcome in that scenario is just as tragic. I prefer to believe Goldie's hypoxia theory as it's the best possible one for those on board, other than an impossible miracle.

Or it was shot down by US military in an area far from where they are looking and all this search has been a red herring. I prefer to believe that than it's landed and will be used against us at some point.

This is a previously unencountered use of the word prefer.

But why would the us shoot it and why not admit it?

Because it was acting irratically and they jumped? It's happened before. And to cover up that fact. Just a suspicion with lack of any evidence to suggest something else...

When has it happened before? When has the US shot down a civilian plane and then staged an enormous cover up involving 20 nations which is so unsuccessful that it remains in the news for weeks? Or am I misunderstanding something?

The US are quite good at accidentally shooting down planes, it has happened more than you may think. They generally admit it and pay massive amounts of compensation very quickly.

I am also very curious about the use of 'prefer'.

FWIW for it to be used against 'us' it would have needed to be landed on a bigger enough runway to take it, otherwise it would have been too damaged to fly again. Quite noticeable I would have thought, and anyone with access to one of these would also have access to other planes so why bother?

*big enough

Yes, it's the idea of trying to cover it up in such a bodged way as to keep it in the news for months that doesn't make sense. Though I suppose conspiracy theorists will say that this is what we call 'hiding in plain sight'....

So, wait, the US shot down the plane and then what? Got a hundred people in on the conspiracy to fake the Inmarsat data and a thousand in on a conspiracy to sink a black box and then detect it? Including people and organisations from multiple jurisdictions?

The area searched to date is just the radius of maximum probability - it is perfectly possible it's within a wider radius.

When presented with two undesirable choices I "prefer" the less desirable. This doesn't mean I "prefer" that that's what happened. I would prefer it never happened at all but it did

I have no idea what's happened and I'm not a big conspiracy theorist but this story reeks of cover up. The likelihood is that we will never know, fine for me but those poor families

I cannot understand how people are still not getting the enormity of the search. If you wanted to down a plane so it would never be found then one of the best places on earth to do it would be the southern ocean. That is not to say that I necessarily believe it was intentional, I would still prefer to believe the hypoxia theory.

I have seen on line a photo which seems to be of a plane in water with only one wing.

I just wish it could be found.

there is no 'enormity of the search'. i don't get how people can be so willfully blind to the fact that there is massive, radar and satellite coverage in this area as it is hugely important geopolitically and that there is no way on earth that no one knows where this plane went.

i'm not convinced by any of the so called conspiracy theories particularly but it is quite clear to me that what is being presented to us via the media is a farce and that what they claim happened is just not possible.

there are many theories as to what did happen and why and what the gains are and whether this was what was intended or an ad hoc spin because what was intended went wrong - none of us can know but as far as i'm concerned we can know with absolute certainty that this plane did not 'disappear' untracked and without satellite and radar data on it - unless aliens took it it isn't possible.

apart from which there military drills and exercises going on in that area of the world at the time which would have meant even more security and observation going on.

Which brings us back to Doctrine's last post. Are you suggesting that the most costly search operation in history is just a smokescreen and that the Inmarsat data is false?

Inmarsat data is inaccurate. Not intentionally, but because they haven't done this kind of thing before. And no, I don't think the bods there know what really happened...they are in the dark with the rest of us.

They have certainly monitored how many pings were received over the course of a flight before - without any directional data, the pings still show the plane was flying for more than seven hours.

I'm afraid I'm not wilfully ignoring these things, but satellite data etc falls outside my areas of competence; I'm not an astrophysicist nor a military intelligence specialist, but a business consultant. I'm assuming that these confident posters ("Inmarsat data is inaccurate", "information being presented to us is a farce", "massive satellite and radar coverage") work in a different field from me and have access to information that I don't. Unless, of course, they're reaching their conclusions from internet research.

Not to mention that an awful lot of satellites would have been turned in the direction of Ukraine at the time.