Missing Malaysia Air plane

[KenAdams]

It's so sad. They still haven't found anything, but thinks it's crashed into the sea.

For anyone that hasn't heard

"OK, but why is a ship being dispatched so far from where everyone thinks the aircraft is? That isn't normal. And why is the White House pronouncing on it? That also isn't normal."

a) becuAse they are following up every possibility, and
B) the actual statement from the White House was much more nuanced that often reported, and has been superceded now anyhow.

The patent theory, I think, concerns a recent patent application by four employees of Freescale who were on the plane. If the four were to die before the patent was granted then the patent belongs to Freescale and it's owner (possibly Jacob Rothschild). It is alleged to be a valuable patent.

I did not read any of that on a reputable or credible website so I did dismiss it. If it were an attempt to take sole control of the patent it would surely be easier to take down the individual employees than a plane full of unrelated people.

A patent was applied for a few days before this flight took off. Four of the five patent applicants were on the flight, all employees of Freescale Semiconductors. The fifth patent applicant was Freescale Semiconductors. Until a patent is registered if one or more of the applicants dies their 'share' of the patent goes to those surviving, it is only after the grant of a patent, which in this case happened four days after the flight disappeared, that any proceeds of a patent cant be willed to somebody else.

So, if this is true there is a whole new sinister line of enquiry involving a very interesting name. Google Freescale Semiconductors and follow some trails.

X-posts are why I hate having slow internet connections. :o

I must admit I'm swaying more towards the idea of a hijacking and they've taken the plane to somewhere like the Yemen and are planning to use it for something later.

Either that or all the stuff about transponders been turned off at 14 minute intervals is bollocks and the plane has blown up/crashed somewhere near the last known point and the Malaysians are just hopeless at finding it.

Hijack/pilot heading towards Deigo Garcia, could explain why the White House knows to search West.

I also think hijacking but how could they land it without somebody seeing it or it being picked up on a radar or something? Maybe a hijacking gone wrong? But why would somebody want to hijack that plane?

So many questions, i hope we get answers :(

can we have a logical overview/summary of most likely event then, supported by the confirmed evidence?

• plane passed into Vietnamese airspace
• one pilot became ill.. mumbled.. co-pilot panicked, changed course..

If the patent was applied for "a few days before this flight took off" we wouldn't know anything about it. Such applications are usually published 18 months after the original application date. US patent applications used to have to have the actual inventors as applicants (this recently stopped being the case). I'd be very surprised if the inventors didn't have a contractural duty to assign their rights in any patent application to their employer.

You'd only know if eg were deliberately head's for Diego Garcia is someone had said so. Which means either ethre is multinational lying about messages form the cockpit, or there has been contact with the US authorities since e incident.

And that doesn't make sense to me. Why would someone tip off the US after the event? Why not just take the credit (thinking of videos released post-mortem on-line)?

Oh fuck, just googled Diego Garcia, that could be a possibility...

''CIA black site''

with runways and hangars no doubt ... ... ...

There was a post early on in that long Pprune thread from someone who speculated that if it was a political hijacking then one possible destination was Xinjiang Province in northwest China, where there have been ongoing issues of the mostly Uygher population seeking independence. Looking at the revised possible flight path, I guess it could be a possibility that the plane turned north in the area of the Andaman Islands in that direction. But I don't know enough about whether it would be possible to fly from the Andaman Islands area to somewhere in Xianjiang without being detected.

I have to say, though, that that speculation worried me a lot. It would be a very risky thing to do, given the possible retribution by Beijing.

I'd be very surprised if the inventors didn't have a contractural duty to assign their rights in any patent application to their employer.

^^ this.

"becuAse they are following up every possibility,"

OK, but what I'm trying to get at is why does the US, with its massive global tracking capability, think that this is a possibility? They must surely have assessed not only the possibility but also the probability. The US Navy have some superb radar capabilities, don't they? And the have submarines stationed who knows where, don't they? And they have a system designed for the tracking of 'enemy' submarines, don't they? All of this came out when they were trying to find AF447. So what of this capability is deployed in the area of this potential accident? And what has it told the US to make them think that there is a probability that the aircraft is in the area where the USS Kidd is being deployed? there must be something.

What do you think the probability level is that's caused them to send a vessel off that way meditrina?

"Oh fuck, just googled Diego Garcia, that could be a possibility..."

Possibility for what PublicEnemyNumeroUno?

What's the deal with Diego Garcia?

"I think it depressurised and the pilots passed out trying to return to KL."

Putting everything together, to me this seems the most likely scenario. It doesn't explain why the ADS-B transponder dropped out, though, unless it was somehow damaged in the 'event' that caused the depressurisation.

If I think off the top of my head for an explanation, there are a couple. I've seen that an Oxygen Bottle is located close to the avionics bay. If this blew up (happened once before on a QANTAS 747 - DH saw the aftermath on a business trip to the Philippines, where the aircraft diverted and was repaired - everyone got away with that one!) it could puncture the fuselage and wreck the avionics.

Second could be a fire that progressively burnt through different systems on the aeroplane including the cables to the many and varied antennas. This happened on a Swissair flight that, unfortunately, did result in a loss to the aircraft. Another accident, to a freighter, happened when a load of lithium-ion batteries also caught fire (called a thermal runaway). They are banned now as air cargo but every iPhone and laptop has one. If something like that were to be in someone's luggage, depending what was around it the aircraft's onboard firefighting equpiment may not be able to cope.

There are so many scenarios with so many different possibilities contained within them.

"What's the deal with Diego Garcia?"

That's what I'm wondering. Is someone suggesting it's been attacked? Or is it the target for the later use of the aeroplane? Is it where the flight was going? Is someone suggested that it was trying to land there?

I could understand why some people might want to target it (listening station, bomber base etc.) but why has it suddenly appeared in people's conscience?

I think the thing about Diego Garcia is that it could be a target for anti-West terrorists.

"The BBC understands that a satellite system operated by London-based telecommunications company Inmarsat received an automated signal from flight MH370 at least five hours after the plane was reported lost.

BBC science correspondent Jonathan Amos says the signal could only have been sent if the plane was intact and powered, and may explain why search teams have moved to the Indian Ocean."

Could it really fly depressurised, on autopilot, for 5 hours?

"Could it really fly depressurised, on autopilot, for 5 hours?"

Yes.

The only reason it wouldn't is if something caused an upset - like turbulence, that caused it to roll and therefore turn. It had enough fuel to do that.

I've seen Diego Garcia mentioned a few times. I suppose it's a possible target for terrorists. If so, this could have been a hijacking that went wrong, with DG as the target. Maybe the US does have more information than has been revealed and is sending its ship as it knows where to look?

Thank, I was thinking i ts somewhere really nice to go for a holiday