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Missing Malaysia Air plane

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KenAdams · 08/03/2014 09:47

It's so sad. They still haven't found anything, but thinks it's crashed into the sea.

For anyone that hasn't heard

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totallyuseless · 13/03/2014 14:23

They are keeping it under wraps I am sure they know what's happened to it. They are just biding their time until they come up with a cover up story.

BumpyGrindy · 13/03/2014 14:29

Could this have anything to do with the Ukraine and all that? What if it was shot down or something?

AchyFox · 13/03/2014 14:33

I'm fairly sure there's a cover-up.

Why aren't the USA helping out with satellite images by now ?

Doesn't make sense.

LoopyDoopyDoo · 13/03/2014 14:33

Yes. Not sure who the 'diversion from Anwar' theory would benefit though? Confused

This is all thoroughly weird. Not just the plane. The whole place. Odd.

BumpyGrindy · 13/03/2014 14:40

I think it was shot with a missile but they won't tell us because there'd be such panic. There are enough issues with Ukraine and Russia right now aside from other unrest in the world that if something like that happened it would panic us.

PublicEnemyNumeroUno · 13/03/2014 14:46

Surely somebody knows something

SolomanDaisy · 13/03/2014 14:47

I don't go in for conspiracy theories, but if a plane has been hijacked and is about to be used as a weapon to cause mass casualties then I imagine most governments would consider shooting it down. There are so many governments involved here that it would be impossible to cover that up.

totallyuseless · 13/03/2014 14:48

If the plan had landed in the sea the authorities would already know because of Seismic equipment, it can throw up a record of the tiniest earth tremor - and 200+ tonnes of aircraft hitting land or water at 500, 600, or 800kmh must have produced a measurable shock wave (if it has crashed)

totallyuseless · 13/03/2014 14:50

If the plane was hijacked someone on board would have tried to call someone from the plane phone, send a text etc......but nothing.

PinkMacaroons · 13/03/2014 14:59

"If the plan had landed in the sea the authorities would already know because of Seismic equipment, it can throw up a record of the tiniest earth tremor - and 200+ tonnes of aircraft hitting land or water at 500, 600, or 800kmh must have produced a measurable shock wave (if it has crashed)"

This sounds very interesting. Are we absolutely sure that seismic equipment would pick it up?

BumpyGrindy · 13/03/2014 15:13

totally I don't think so. Professional criminals are military in their business. They'd take all mobile phones away the moment things were in their control. Very easy to control crowds when you've got weapons.

AchyFox · 13/03/2014 15:17

Warning conspiracy theory inbound: Wink

What if ....

  1. It was successfully hijacked and flown low to NKorea/Myanmar/Afghanistan.
  1. Threats were made to kill all passengers and/or ram plane into major city with biological/nerve/nuclear device on board.

I think in these circs the authorities may try to keep things very quiet.

PublicEnemyNumeroUno · 13/03/2014 15:29

I think its crashed on land, there is a lot of dense jungle out there isn't there? Maybe something went wrong and pilot tried to aim for land?

But why no distress call?

Its really baffling me

TheOneWithTheNicestSmile · 13/03/2014 15:32

re the seismic equipment thing, I did read at some point that the impact wouldn't have been powerful enough to register

can't remember where I saw it though

PublicEnemyNumeroUno · 13/03/2014 15:40

The US thinks its crashed into the Indian ocean and is sending its naval ship there to search

VivaLeBeaver · 13/03/2014 15:55

If there had been a fault there would have been a distress call.

If there had been a hijacking there would have been phone calls. Unless it was hijacked at a high enough altitude for phones not to work and they managed to get all the phones off people before reaching cell phone range. But its unlikely that someone didnt sneakily keep their phone and text later......

So either there was a sudden explosion and no time to mayday call. Or the thing where there's gradual decompression and everyone falls asleep happens. But then why didnt the radar track it as the plane would have carried on flying for hours??

Possibility that the pilot was in on it, flew the plane somewhere else and passengers didnt realise they'd been hijacked. So no phone calls....they land somewhere out of cell phone range?? North Korea, The Yemen. But again why no radar tracking?

So I do think that a sudden and catastrophic incident such as an explosion is the most likely explanation. Just can't understand why they can't find it.

Rooners · 13/03/2014 16:02

Why are people reading so many bonkers theories into this? It's a plane, it's obviously met with an accident/been blown up/fallen into the sea, it's a massive area, it could be anywhere.

I can think of better ways to obtain a plane for some potential terrorist stunt than stealing one, hiding it for a week or so, then using it somehow - really, people need to calm down I think.

Rooners · 13/03/2014 16:03

There is a huge backlog of unresolved plane crashes from many years ago.

Rooners · 13/03/2014 16:05

at least 6

Meglet · 13/03/2014 16:09

totally I thought the same further up the thread. I think it was goldie who pointed out there probably wouldn't be any mobile phone coverage miles out at sea.

I reckon a lot of high level officials know what's happened but for some reason they're not telling. It's very strange.

LadyMetroland · 13/03/2014 16:12

I agree a catastrophic event must have occurred - aircraft breaking up midair. I also think it is quite easy to 'lose' an airliner if it's in thousands of little pieces in a huge, huge sea. The area is so vast that wreckage may take weeks to find. Pieces may start to be washed up on Vietnamese beaches in coming days.

The task then will be to establish what the catastrophic event was, and assuming it was a fault with the aircraft then all other 777s need to be checked for similar fault pronto. Of course a bomb is another option. God bless all those on board and their families.

Rooners · 13/03/2014 16:15

It probably blew up in the air. The Aussie guy saw something on fire - there's not much that could be on fire in the sky apart from a plane, and there aren't any other reports of planes missing atm.

So given the position unless he was dreaming/pissed/attention seeking, it's likely to have been this one.

That means something went wrong and it didn't hit the ocean in one piece.

It is very sad for all concerned but I really don't think there's anything weird going on apart from the usual odd handling of media interest by certain governments.

muffinino82 · 13/03/2014 16:18

Rooners All but one of those examples are from 40+ years ago, apart from the Brazil-Paris one. Technology has moved on. With the Air France flight I believe they found some indication of where it was after just 24 hours and found the plane within 5 days, even though it was deep in a trench. This one has been missing for 6 days with nothing at all (apparently) to indicate what happened to it. If it exploded/went down when it went off the radar, surely something would have emerged by now? The fact it did just disappear, and there doesn't appear to be any wreckage within the area it was when it disappeared, suggests that it possibly didn't just explode or go down there. Coupled with the fact that there has been so much information emerge only to be denied is fuelling people's imaginations.

The US seem to think it's in the Indian Ocean, miles away from where it should be and way off its flight course as far as I know. They're sending a ship there so seem pretty sure.

muffinino82 · 13/03/2014 16:23

I'm not saying that it didn't explode/go down/break up at the point it went off the radar, just that because nothing at all has been found it's making the public very twitchy. Now, whether something has been found but that information has not been released, I have no idea. Whether the US is correct and it flew over the Indian Ocean, I have no idea. But all this conflicting information is fuel for conspiracies.

Has the information from the Australian oil rig worker (I believe that's what he was) been confirmed or discounted? Didn't the oil company deny he worked for them at one point? Again, not saying it didn't happen, it's just so unclear.

Rooners · 13/03/2014 16:23

I guess. But still it does happen and there is really no need to start enormous conspiracy theories about it.

Freak accidents are just that.

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