12-year-old boy raped sister, 7, after watching internet porn

[AgaPanthers]

www.lep.co.uk/news/local/schoolboy-raped-sister-after-watching-porn-1-6474334

"He committed a number of sexual offences against his sister between March and May last year but the matters did not come to light until last autumn."

"Sentencing him, District Judge James Prowse said he thought it “highly improbable” that the boy would reoffend in this way as he followed the recommendations of a Youth Offending Team to impose a 12-month referral order.

Detaining him would “tear the family apart” and would expose him to “hardened and sophisticated” youth offenders, he added.

In a victim impact statement, the girl said she was “sad” at what her brother had done but she wanted him to come home because she loved him and missed playing games with him."

"It is understood the boy had viewed porn on an Xbox games console at a friend’s house."

"The content had led to “sexual conversation” between the group of friends, the court heard."

[morethanpotatoprints]

I'm not suggesting that this boy would not have done this anyway but
I really think that children are allowed too many devices far too young these days.
If parents give in to peer pressure I'm sure there will be more cases like these.
My ds are much older and luckily mobile phones were the only thing they and their peers had. No internet access apart from monitored PC's at home and school.
The most we had was a call from school to say they'd been passing page 3 around. You can deal with this.
Somebody somewhere bought their dc the first ipod/pad and allowed internet access, then came the peer pressure.
You don't have to succumb to it if you don't like the consequences.

[hickorychicken]

This makes me genuinely sad. The little girl will have said she is ok for him to return home as she will be craving a normal family home, but for her parents to allow it....pffft.
12 is plenty old enough to know exactly what he was doing.
That poor girl.
People will blame games/consoles/internet for such things but im pretty sure there was sexual abuse happening 50 years ago.
Makes me sick.

[Soditall]

blackcoffee I really hope you see this message.

You really need to contact your sons school asap and tell them about the porn sharing problem at they're school.

It's really important that they know about the student that has shown porn to a year 3 student(I've worked with children for years and worked within SS)this could become a case of an older student grooming a younger student if it isn't dealt with quickly!

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

I tend to disagree I just think it gives people an excuse - rather than it causes anything.

I agree re devices, there are children in playgroup with their own ipads.

[blackcoffee]

my thread is in teenagers, I put it there because I couldn't quite believe my ds was seeing porn at 11
sodit, the dc in question are now all in Y6 so the situation has been going on for 3 years - ie was one Y3 child to another 3 years ago

[Soditall]

Are the school aware that this is going on?
It's never to late to inform them.

[morethanpotatoprints]

soditall

I daresay this is happening in all schools, parents need to open their eyes and start supervising their kids.
You don't need the internet on a phone to be able to keep in contact with your parents.
There is no way I would do this for under 16's.
What's wrong with a cheap phone from Asda.
Unless schools, the transport children use, and parents get wise, the age at which children can access porn won't change.

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

Thanks balckcoffee

[Cocolepew]

I read that the boy and his dad were put on the sex offenders register, why would the dad be put on it?

[Timetoask]

I would like to see a prison sentence being given to anyone who allows a child to watch porn under their supervision, be it whilst they are at a friends house for a playdate (the parent to be charged), be at school (the head teacher to be charged), or on a phone (the adult who signed/bought the contract to be charged). Someone needs to be held accountable for this.

I do think that we forget how impressionable young minds are, at 12 I think a young boy could be seriously affected by porn, he needs adults to protect him.

[Animation]

"I would like to see a prison sentence being given to anyone who allows a child to watch porn under their supervision"

I agree.

[StealthPolarBear]

"People will blame games/consoles/internet for such things but im pretty sure there was sexual abuse happening 50 years ago. "

Well yes of course. No one has said that internet porn is necessary for sexual abuse have they?

[StealthPolarBear]

that's like saying some non-smokers get cancer therefore smoking does not increase the risk of cancer. Completely illogical

[hickorychicken]

Im not saying it doesnt increase the risk i just think its a shitty excuse and used as a get out of jail free card.

[StealthPolarBear]

but this is a child. A child who has done an awful, unforgiveable thing. I think the focus needs to be on the girl but he should not be discarded.
And your argument was we cant blame internet porn as there was rape pre-internet.

[Blistory]

The problem isn't as simple as saying that there isn't a link between porn and rape. And when there are women and children at risk, can we afford to dismiss a possible connection ?

Part of the problem is that we simply don't educate young boys sufficiently and put all of the onus on young girls and women to protect themselves. A 7 year old girl should never be put in that position. It isn't up to her to protect herself.

But it would be wrong to disregard just how damaging hardcore porn is and I think we're getting it wrong by making it secretive and pretending that we can prevent children from seeing it. We need to make it illegal. No-one needs hardcore porn, no -one.

It's becoming increasingly mainstream and acceptable and young boys are seeing horrific images of what women supposedly like, how sex supposedly is and cannot begin to understand the trade that goes on behind it. Young girls absorb the message that that is how they need to behave and it's wrong, so damn wrong.

[hickorychicken]

Maybe i should have made myself clear. Rapists rape. Some watch porn, some may not. There must be something inside him to do this. Seeing porn is a lazy excuse. But thats just my opinion.

[girliefriend]

I am 35 and have never seen or have any desire to see 'hardcore' porn, the fact that children are watching it is very disturbing to me

I don't know what the answer is for this particular boy and his family, it is totally fucked up.

[Pagwatch]

It might be useful for some of the people being aghast atthe idea of children being shown porn to put 'porn' into their search engine.

I saw magazines when I was fairly young - men only left at the bus stop and a bunch of kids giggling over it (that shows my age). But the images that appear within one or two clicks are light years away from anything I understood by porn as a teenager - even as a young woman.

Unless you have great filters on every device in your home and are confident that they never spend time with friends who don't, your child is xposed beyond about 10/11.
Awareness of that is important rather than looking to hold supervising adults responsible.
It's a bloody nightmare.

[Blistory]

I agree that only rapists rape.

But rapists aren't recognisable monsters prowling dark alleys. An inordinate amount of 'normal' men rape. Why ? I don't know but maybe it's a sense of entitlement, maybe it's about power, maybe it's about opportunity, maybe it's due to inadequacy.

And it starts somewhere - and it worries me that a normal young boy brought up in a loving family turns around and rapes his younger sister. Why ? If his views of women are so warped, how did that happen ? If he thinks he was entitled to do so, where did he get those beliefs ? Did he learn even at a young age that most rapists get away with it ? Or did he simply not see it as rape but something that he was entitled to do because that message has been ingrained in him ?

The idea that rapists are a breed apart is simply not true. Young men rape sometimes simply because they have contempt for women whether from peer pressure or otherwise and young women are vulnerable, children even more so.

But rapists live normal lives - they are our fathers, uncles, sons, nephews, partners, friends - but something tells them it's okay to rape and I think that hardcore porn and the way in which women are portrayed goes a long way to explaining why they view women this way.

It doesn't excuse rape but it does normalise it.

[morethanpotatoprints]

Pagwatch

I totally agree, but imo children shouldn't be allowed devices like this anyway. We protect them from seeing films via ratings, smoking until adults, why is this so different?
You can make sure your child isn't the one showing porn at school or accessing it at home by supervision in the home and not buying the devices in the first place.
You can't protect against other children whose parents have bought them to keep up with the Jones's.
Maybe we should blame the parents.

[VoyageDeVerity]

Sorry if this is triggering for some....



I have come accross some mainstream porn that actually looks like rape but the women have obviously been told to look as if they are enjoying it. That is really fucked up and sends awful, awful messages to young men.

Having said that it doesn't turn them into rapists, but it does screw things up about how they perceive women and sex.

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

I would like to see a prison sentence being given to anyone who allows a child to watch porn under their supervision, be it whilst they are at a friends house for a playdate (the parent to be charged), be at school (the head teacher to be charged), or on a phone (the adult who signed/bought the contract to be charged). Someone needs to be held accountable for this.I do think that we forget how impressionable young minds are, at 12 I think a young boy could be seriously affected by porn, he needs adults to protect him.

Thats just ridiculous, completely totally and utterly.

[columngollum]

I know SS aren't always on the ball, but you'd have hoped they haven't missed this case. Clearly the parents are worse than useless and the boy is a rapist. I don't know what other info SS needs.

[columngollum]

I suppose evidence is lacking, but an obvious question is: is only the boy the rapist?