12-year-old boy raped sister, 7, after watching internet porn

[AgaPanthers]

www.lep.co.uk/news/local/schoolboy-raped-sister-after-watching-porn-1-6474334

"He committed a number of sexual offences against his sister between March and May last year but the matters did not come to light until last autumn."

"Sentencing him, District Judge James Prowse said he thought it “highly improbable” that the boy would reoffend in this way as he followed the recommendations of a Youth Offending Team to impose a 12-month referral order.

Detaining him would “tear the family apart” and would expose him to “hardened and sophisticated” youth offenders, he added.

In a victim impact statement, the girl said she was “sad” at what her brother had done but she wanted him to come home because she loved him and missed playing games with him."

"It is understood the boy had viewed porn on an Xbox games console at a friend’s house."

"The content had led to “sexual conversation” between the group of friends, the court heard."

[Uptheanty]

It's just another escuse people.

Another reason for us to try & rationalise that which we can't understand or defend.

The boy is a boy but he's also a predator who will grow into a bigger predator.

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

She probably has as much support as a n other victim -specifically fuck all - remember she will be denied access to full counselling/therapy until post trial.

[Gileswithachainsaw]

Would a 7 yr old really be denied therapy and forced to testify? :(

There are no words....

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

Not forced to testify no - denied access to therapy - yes.

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

I wonder what the mother thinks and if she is so on board with this - she is conspicuously absent from the news report.

[morethanpotatoprints]

It is absolutely disgusting that children are freely able to watch porn at this age and I bet there will be more cases like this.
Yes, I feel sorry for the boy as well as the girl.
I also think the person in charge of the children when watching the porn should be prosecuted for child neglect.
What is this world coming too.

[HavantGuard]

I would assume that the majority of 12 year olds have seen hard core porn. The joys of the Internet. I think it is having an impact on young people's attitudes to sex. I find it worrying that it is being blamed for this and deeply worrying that a little girl's statement about wanting her brother home is being given weight. Of course she does. That doesn't mean he should be.

[HavantGuard]

'I also think the person in charge of the children when watching the porn should be prosecuted for child neglect.'

They were 12 year olds. They have mobile phones. Who is in charge of them on the bus home from school? On a Saturday morning when they meet up to kick a ball around? In break time at school?

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

morethan sibling on sibling abuse has always happened. We will see more cases like this - because its a nice excuse for a low sentence.

This isn't happening more, it just gets more reported publically.

[StealthPolarBear]

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

It may be different because he pleaded guilty

[mrssmith79]

Porn was readily available in hedges, big brother's mattresses and dad's sock drawers when I was 12. At 13 I was sexually active (in the minority, I concur) so I'd imagine there's much more to this than straightforward 'Xbox online porn corrupts innocent boy' wrt mental health and family circumstances.
Horrific though.

[givemeaclue]

Worst part is he is being allowed back in the family home.

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

Weekends what do you mean its a nice excuse for a low sentence?

[Gileswithachainsaw]

That's a good point havent

And the truth is you just can't sit there with children of that age who you should be able to trust to be alone for half an hour or get a bus or post a letter etc.

Or the world would literally come to a stand still. It's the age where finally after school clubs and nurseries are finally over for some. Can you imagine having to arrange/pay/still work fewer hours for kids old enough to look after themselves.

You just can't.

And they do need a phone and computers fir work. Or if they miss the bus etc. You can't cut then off. WhT can you do if your parental controls aren't effective on the computer or a friends house doesn't have them...

[HavantGuard]

There's a world of difference between magazines stuffed under a mattress in the 90s and 1,000s of videos of hard core porn delivered to your mobile phone.

[VoyageDeVerity]

Omg that little girl is going to be so messed up.

Sad for the boy, sad!

I don't know where to begin about the messages to her here.

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

yourbeing because now it will become the defence of choice, it maybe true, it may not be true, but it may have happened with or without the porn.

I do not believe the porn made him do this chamces are he would have done it anyway but this absolves him of repsonsibility.

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

Oh yes- i see what you mean now. Thank you weekends. I think you could be right.

[Soditall]

I feel sorry for all of the family.Of course the little girl wants her big brother home,she loves him.
Lots of children still want to carry on living with parents that have abused them(which is far worse as they're adults)because of the love they hold for they're parents,it will feel no different for this little girl.

It will be the hardest thing the whole family will ever have to go through as long as Social Services are on the ball with this case and have two social workers,one that works with the daughter and one with the son and the social workers communicate between each other properly and both children and the parents are given extensive counseling there's a good chance they'll come out the other side of this nightmare together.

On the subject of porn and the effects it has on young children.
There have been many studies on this subject some of them have been televised.
All of them I've seen or read about have shown that viewing porn at a very young age causes problems for the child viewing the porn.
It differs between all children that are affected.

Some go onto have an addiction to porn that can become very severe.
Some exhibit very promiscuous behavior which can lead them into putting themselves into very dangerous situations that they end up having no control over.
Some children become sexually active far to young and engage in inappropriate behavior with other consenting children or adults.
Some go onto have sex unlawfully like the young boy in this case.

[blackcoffee]

I started a thread about preteens and porn when I found that my ds had managed to enable his tablet last month and had some v questionable sites on there.
I've talked to him about it - he moved schools a year ago and says the majority of the children in his new class watch porn and that's how he found out about it. Worse still, he says some of his classmates are addicted and talk about wanting to stop. One classmate showed it to another in Y3!!!

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

like tbis boy 14 no prison same excuse

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

Blackcoffee could you link to your thread please? I was just about to start one asking for advice on how to talk with my dcs about it but if you have a thread going i could take a look there.

[WeekendsAreHappyDays]

It will be the hardest thing the whole family will ever have to go through as long as Social Services are on the ball with this case and have two social workers,one that works with the daughter and one with the son and the social workers communicate between each other properly and both children and the parents are given extensive counseling there's a good chance they'll come out the other side of this nightmare together.

What are the chances of SS being on the ball etc in these days of govt cutbacks though. Most SW I know are over loaded, struggling and barely meeting their stat requirements, let alone doing anything "extra".

[defineme]

Yes sibling on sibling abuse has always happened.
My 12 year old would know not to do this and I would imagine that there is much going on in that case that we don't know about. I feel most sorry for the young girl, but if we as a society wash our hands of a 12 yr old as a monster then we're in a sorry state-he's a 12 year old that did monstrous things and it's imperative upon us to face that and understand why so it doesn't happen again. He needs to be treated so he doesn't do it again and lessons need to be learned from his history.

It does seem that the internet was a factor though.
I really think comparing the magazines and videos that were available prior to the internet to what is accessible/available now is ridiculous. The mobility of phones and the age children have private access to technology is much much younger.

We have no idea what effect this is having on our children.

It is possible to have a 12 year old that gets the school bus, does homework etc and doesn't have a phone or anything other than the family computer-I can think of 2 that I know (and a 14 year old)-we all used to do it. It's not going to happen though is it? We like our phones far too much and we like being able to contact our kids.

I'm very sad that I'm now thinking of what conversation I have to have with my 9 year old twins because it seems likely that I need to prepare them for the fact that they will be seeing pornography soon. They know about sex, but how the hell do I explain this?