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Supernanny gets a kicking in the Guardian today....

177 replies

harpsichordcarrier · 22/07/2006 21:21

blimey, this interview makes her sound so v thick

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hunkermunker · 22/07/2006 23:13

I'm actually really, really uncomfortable with showing images of out of control children on television.

I wonder what impact it will have on them as they grow up - their peers all know they were the one who spat at their mother, kicked their sister and called their dad a c*nt, on TV.

(And I'm reading JF as JudgeFlounce, not Jo Frost, on this thread...!)

PiccadillyCircus · 22/07/2006 23:15

I was reading JF as JudgeFlounce as well .

cat64 · 22/07/2006 23:18

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Socci · 22/07/2006 23:19

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edam · 22/07/2006 23:24

Why, thank you Cat!

peasinapod · 22/07/2006 23:43

My friend took over Jo Frosts nanny job . I have know this friend for 23years .The storys she told me about her you would not believe . I would not employ her in a month of sundays .

edam · 22/07/2006 23:46

Peas, you can't just leave it at that, we want details!

southeastastra · 22/07/2006 23:47

nice to know your friend was quick to spill beans

fattiemumma · 22/07/2006 23:47

i think i can imagine!

hunkermunker · 22/07/2006 23:47

Peasinapod, by all means start another thread in chat with an anonymous-sounding title that we'll all find

And mentioning no names, tell us what you know...

peasinapod · 22/07/2006 23:50

Im not going to say any more because I know what I know and I trust my friend completly. If Jo frost ever saw this thread she would know what I was on about as well . I would never employ her .

hunkermunker · 23/07/2006 00:06

But I wanna know!!!!!

S'OK, PIAP, I understand. If you ever get the urge to tell though, you can always email me... I'm quite nosy

themoon66 · 23/07/2006 00:12

the kids JF used to look after were wheeled on to meet her again, as a suprise, when she was on Richard and Judy the other week. They all seemed genuinely happy to see one another. Like a family get-together it was.

eenywifemum · 23/07/2006 00:26

Hi, I havent read the whole thread so apologies if someone has already answered this question.

I am pregnant with my first baby and while I know discipline is a LOOOOONG way off I am curious - if the naughty step isnt good what is? What do you all do?

fattiemumma · 23/07/2006 00:37

the naughty step (if you really must call it that) is in itself a usefull tool in some cases as it allows the child to be removed from any scene of misbehaviour and allows some time to calm down.
its when it gets confused with the other challenging behaviour practices that it loses its value.
the child should stay in chill out for 1 minute for each year of its life...so a 3 year old would sit for 3 minutes and if still throwing a wobbler an extra minute but no longer.
then he should be welcomed back to the room or whatever. and praised as soon as is possible for something he does....ooh you have joined in really well there billy...thats nice colouring sam etc etc.

the fact he has sat on the step should be there as a tool to allow him to calm down not a punishment. the fact that JF then expects the child to say sorry just causes further conflict. as i say i have only ever seen one show so not sure but,....what happens if the child refuses to say sorry? does she expect the child to go back on the step?

as i say, the woman has taken one tool and then confused it with something else thus rendering both methods useless as they conflict with each other.

peasinapod · 23/07/2006 00:43

J F I didnt see that programme the kids my friend looked after were 2 girls ,what were the kids on the programme.

handlemecarefully · 23/07/2006 00:44

Haven't read whole thread. I would say that it's not so much that supernanny sounds thick, more like the journalist writing the piece sounds like a supercilious smart arse, and I wouldn't mind given her (sad old guardinista) a slap around the chops given the chance

peasinapod · 23/07/2006 00:44

DOH sorry themoon66 what were the kids on the programme .

SminkoPinko · 23/07/2006 01:20

Yes- agree with Edam and hmc re smug tone. Very sneery indeed. I prefer T Byron in style but actually in practical terms she and supernanny are not that unalike, imo. Central tenet: give lots of attention (through play and praise) to promote and reward good behaviour, withdraw attention (through ignoring if minor, time out if appalling) to reduce bad behaviour. Yes, Tanya B clearly sometimes has some slightly more complex psychological theories behind her interventions but both are warm and want good things for children and families from what I've seen. Perhaps Jo Frost is more vulnerable to becoming a bit exploited as an "industry" that gathers momentum with or without her. Tanya seems like she was a very grounded, settled person family and careerwise well before all the tv opportunities came along.

noddyholder · 23/07/2006 08:14

I read it and they are right She is awful She shouldn't be involved with kids as she has an awful manner and can't speak properly her
grammar is all over the place.

FrannyandZooey · 23/07/2006 08:38

Just read this

Really shocked and upset about the 'cute' photos of children sitting on the Naughty Step

bloody wankers

I loathe the whole Super Nanny machine - it and other programmes like it, have made the public in general think that drastic 'dog training style' behavioural methods, used here to get fast results to make an impact for a TV show, are the best and most effective long term methods of discipline - no, make that the only methods.

My mother is a great fan, and regularly preaches at me - if I say "oh ds was quite unsettled last night in bed, I was worried about him, he called out several times and seemed upset," she will say "Oh, well, on Super Nanny, they would shut the door and tell him no more calling out, you have to put him straight back in bed and not speak to him or look at him or anything." The programme has changed the way she thinks about a situation involving a small child, from one of concern and sympathy for her small grandson, to that of a disciplinarian making sure the child does not inconvenience the parents in any way, without trying to find out what the problem is, just clamping down on the "unacceptable behaviour" in a harsh and dramatic fashion.

Hence I am no longer able to consult my mother about any aspect of parenting, which makes me very sad.

oops · 23/07/2006 08:56

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cleaninglady · 23/07/2006 09:07

hhmmm interesting stuff i suppose - i use naughty step sometimes but mainly if dd has hit out at ds or us which is usually done in frustration and not often but it gives her some time out to calm down - never really given any thought to why say sorry when its over but this has made me realise that its pointless really - i could ask her to say sausages and it would be the same thing in her mind! childcare discipline is a minefield but must admit think it is going a bit overboard sometimes with programmes like this - good strategies but remember to keep it human and sensitive to what are sometimes very young children IMO !

cleaninglady · 23/07/2006 09:10

in fact should the child say sorry before they go into time out/naughty step as the injured party gets an immediate apology and the perputrator also knows it was that act that caused it? just a thought
i dont think they or the child that has been hit or whatever remember what it was about 3/4 mins later!

Enid · 23/07/2006 09:11

ah poor jo frost

she always seems like a very nice person to me

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