So it's alleged nigella took drugs with her kids?

[Bradsplit]

In the trial prosecution evidence. Aha.

Duchesse, have you been watching Mary Poppins

No, but I want to now...

I agree with Bonsoir, of course the uber-rich operate differently to ordinary people, just as the MPs got more crazy expenses than ordinary people, and of course they can do it for years without any checks

and duchesse, just because Bonsoir moves in higher circles than you, there is no need to be rude to her.

Bonsoir you seem to be deliberately misunderstanding the reports of this case. They were taking taxis across the country, trips to New York, shopping in Bond Street for their OWN pleasure not to accompany NLs children.
They STOLE from their employer and their defence was to say NL was so drugged up and let them do it if they kept that from CS. Nice!
I don't think the rest of us need to be repeatedly told your odd beliefs about how the wealthy live. It sounds like a sad fantasy to me and doesn't correlate to any of my experience.
I agree with Duchesse (she's got a French name too so presumably I can trust her knowledge of the way the rich live).

Can we cut out the personal attacks. I don't think Bonsoir has attacked anyone, just told us her views, and I don't think that Bonsoir believes that the tens of thousands of expenditure by the Grillos was all authorised.

Yes but Bonsoir in your example the nannies taking the taxis have the DCs with them. In the case of the taxi one of the Grillos took to the polo they didn't have the DCs with them. They took the piss, they were stealing, they should be in prison.

'Higher circles' claig? FGS - you sound like a character out of Downton :o

You don't need to be dressed in more expensive clothes than the children you're responsible for to command respect - if that was the case, then every single public school teacher should be paid 5x what they actually are.

There was piss poor financial management from the employers and theft by the employees as far as I can see. Neither party comes out of this well

'There was piss poor financial management from the employers and theft by the employees as far as I can see. Neither party comes out of this well'

Yes, that is what it looks like.

why do some posters think they are the MN Ambassadors from Planet Super Rich?

Some of us move in really quite grand circles when we feel so inclined. We just don't go on and on about it. Because its not that big a deal.

Very arriviste, in my personal opinion.

I move in low circles and I am interested in hearing what Bonsoir says as she has experience of this. The Saatchis were obviously not penny pinchers and Bonsoir has experience of rich people who are also not penny pinchers.

yes claig.

Lots of us have.

Some of us might even be super rich,

You do not move in low circles. you move in different circles.

some of us might even know NL and/or CS.

Heaven's such exalted company!

I have lived in Paris, just off the Champs-Elysees, and that is why I like hearing about what goes on there today from Bonsoir who knows all about the beau monde, the bon chic bon genre and les enarques. That's what makes MN so great. Lots of different experiences and different opinions.

ah, subscription to Paris Match might satisfy that itch!

I am very happy to hear from any über*-rich mn ambassador+

• (hah! in your faces! German keyboard. ä ö ü ß Go me!

• as long as they've got ferrero rocher...

cos I'm well posh comma like comma me and über-educated hence all my !!!!!

But seriously, as one of the hoi polloi (who says settee, serviette and perfume) I still like to hear about how the other half live so I can take the piss and justify my own spending # and if you are posh, rich, know a celeb or are a celeb pleeeeaaaaasssseee spill. You know you want to

#My own spending would be deemed Schnickschnack or Krimskrams.
In other words tacky tack from our Poundland equivalent: Euro Shop (it's how much?!) The Grillos put the Crims in krams though, that's a lot of trinketry.

YY Madame Defarge You do not move in low circles. you move in different circles.

My university friendship group now include a surprising diversity of people in terms of income, from priests all the way to dotcom millionaires.

There's nothing nothing instrically "higher" about any of these so-called circles compared to others.

To me different league rich means people like Onassis or the Barclay brothers, not people who spend £10,000 a month or £1,000. At those sort of normal range income levels you just cut your cloth to suit.

The super-rich are a different league altogether.

My late father used to work with some uber-rich people and I got the impression that some of them did live rather different lives and had rather different values (not that he ever spoke about them in any detail at all). If you have access to essentially a bottomless pit of money and have done for a very long time as has everyone else that you spend time with then your attitude toward it is going to be different to more 'ordinary' folk.

But essentially I suspect that there was both theft and poor management here as has been said before. In a way the odd thing is that this case has come to court at all as I doubt it will reflect very well on any of the parties, and Saatchi is supposed to be a very private person.

Well we don't know why it came to court. Perhaps that is the most interesting issue of all and perhaps we will never know.

It's come to court for the purpose of Saatchi humiliating NIgella publically. I believe. I doubt it would have come to court if they were still together.

I don't think that CS is likely to come out well of this court case at all. Public humiliation of the whole household more likely...

It's coming to court to determine if a crime was committed, once reported to police it was out of CS's hands to a large extent how it progressed.

If they were still together would it have been reported and would it have gone to court?

Once you have called the police, the matter is largely out of your hands. It has nothing to do with being married or divorced.

It would have gone to court, might not have received As much reporting though!

It wouldn't have gone to court because they wouldn't have reported it.

The CPS can only recommend a prosecution if they know about the crime.