3 woman kept hostage for 30 years

[ivykaty44]

one being the whole of her life as she is 30 - how did this person not ever go to school? This is shocking

"Capitalism does not allow for democracy, in fact Robert mcchesney states that it 'stands in opposition to true democracy'.

How does he define true democracy?
I define democracy as allowing a pluralistic system of parties and opposing voices who can challenge the orthodoxy and the status quo and where people can choose their own system of government and can choose to vote out the communists without risking being shot or shut in a gulag or arrested in the dead of night.

And they call me a member of the tin foil hat brigade

"Capitalism has a limited life span and will lurch from crisis to crisis (already evident in the banking crisis and recession)."

Capitalism will survive as long as democracy survives.

Of course, democracy is under attack with biometric ID cards and DNA databases and the destruction of civil liberties and the outlawing of public dissent and the surveillance culture and political correctness, but democracy is still alive and as long as the Daily Mail still sells out in newsagents up and down the land, democracy will never die.

There is a battle for our minds. It's the progressives and the internationalists and the globalists versus freedom and self-determination. The future of democracy will depend on which side wins, it will depend on the Daily Mail.

Basically, in order for true democracy to take place peoples access to means of knowledge must be equal so everyone's vote has the potential to be weighted with equal intelligence (?) that might be the wrong word to use. But that's the gist.
At the moment the class system dictates that lower social classes have lower access to education and educational resources so by proxy they have less chance for political awareness and issues in casting a vote.
Just to clarify not saying working class people are less intelligent etc, just that the odds are stacked against them in terms of access to education.

'Basically, in order for true democracy to take place peoples access to means of knowledge must be equal'

But that is a fantasy, a lie perpetuated by a ruling elite who control and conceal the truth. Did the NKVD tell Solzhenitsyn at what time they were coming to arrest him?

Without the Mail on Sunday, we would never have found out about ex-Labour councillor, Reverend Flowers, and there are progressive people who want to end our centures old right to a free press free from any form of political oversight or control.

'At the moment the class system dictates that lower social classes have lower access to education and educational resources so by proxy they have less chance for political awareness and issues in casting a vote.'

But the communist education system was a brainwashing system of education in which you could not stray beyond the boundaries of political correctness in thought lest you had committed a thought crime and were sent to a gulag for crimes against the proletariat.

In a capitalist system, you are free to challenge capitalism, you can be a Marxist. The capitalist allows you freedom because the capitalist is without fear because the capitalist believes in the free exchange of ideas and knows that the people will always reject communism and vote for freedom.

Please tell me this argument has descended into sarcasm. Or am
I hallucinating because it's so late and I'm so tired, and have spent my Friday debating the virtues of socialism as opposed to capitalism. Fml.
Who do you think owns dm? Lord Rothermere. Part of the 'ruling elite'.

And I'm just going to put it out there, the DM opposed Snowden and his whistle blowing on civil right liberty infringements.

Rothermere is a good man. There is always an elite in society. Stalin and Lenin and teh communist hoods were teh elite there and they killed millions in gulags.

I prefer Rothermere and freedom. I don't care how rich he is as long as he allows me freedom to think and vote as I choose and to prosper and own property and invest and spend my money as I choose. The communist won't allow me that, they won't even allow me my Daily Mail, and that is a bridge too far!

He's brainwashing you to vote in allignment with his political views is what he's doing. He's a pompous old arse.

'He's brainwashing you to vote in allignment with his political views is what he's doing. He's a pompous old arse.'

No he's not, because I will probably vote UKIP, and my guess is that Rothermere is Tory. I repeat Rothermere is a good man.

Don't you think it is sinful to have that much money when there are people starving in the world? I do.

No, I don't think it is sinful.

I don't think that the money that JK Rowling has earned through her labour and genius and through the pleasure that she has given to millions of children and adults is sinful at all. On the contrary, I think it is magnificent.

What I think is sinful are people who want to restrict the freedom of other people, who want to remove what is theirs, who cheat and steal from those people with expenses for bath plugs and duck houses and moats etc from the public purse, or who operate from "charities" and draw large expenses from them. What I believe is sinful is people who lock other people up for thought crimes, send them to gulags for daring to oppose their worker's paradise or wanting to read the paper of resistance - the Daily Mail.

What I think is sinful is those who set themselves up above others and tell them what they should do. What I think is sinful is a rich elite of royalty and privileged fat cats who deceive the public by trying to frighten them out of their wits that the "planet" will be destroyed and tell them to live "sustainably" while they live in mansions with castles and acres of land and have never had to worry how they will be able to afford their next fuel bill, which has been artificially and deliberately inflated by the elite in order to keep the hardworking decent people down.

What I think is sinful is an elite that starts wars to rob the resources of ordinary people in order to enrich themselves and impoverish and starve ordinary people. What I think is sinful is those who fund Jihadis and Al Qaeda and let them destroy a civilised country and decapitate people and eat the lungs and hearts of captured soldiers in order to enrich a privileged elite who want to rob the resources of that country and its people.

What is sinful is anyone who wants to restrict the liberties and right to growth and progress of the people. Capitalism and free enterprise are not sinful because they re a route to wealth and wealth is not sinful because it buys freedom.

If the "carbon footprint cabal", the "sustainable swindlers" allowed people in poor countries real free enterprise and capitalism, then there would be fewer poor and starving people on this planet, just as there are now fewer poor people in the UK or South Korea or in any other country that practices capitalism. But that is the exact opposite of the wishes of the "carbon conmen", the "sustaninable swindlers", the "ethical" elite, with their "charities" and their "expenses" and their wish to deprive the people of the world of growth and wealth.

It is not sinful to want to work and study hard and want to live well and earn "loads of money" and enjoy some of teh luxuries and freedoms in life that are enjoyed by the elite who preach "sustainability" for everyone else apart from themselves.

If you think it is sinful that you have money and others are starving, then give your money away, but don't tell others that they are sinful because they struggled and sweated to earn the little that they have.

Communists want to keep the people enslaved and beholden to a ruling elite to such an extent that they want to abolish the right of ordinary people to own their own property, to own their own land.

We have been very lucky in England, that we had liberals and libertarian philosophers such as the great Tom Paine who faced down and fought against an "ethical" elite of crooks and swindlers who wanted to restrict our freedoms.

"An Englishman's house is his castle" and the communists want to remove that castle.

The communist butchers are merely agents of the same "ethical" elite of crooks and swindlers and despots that the great Tom Paine fought against all those years ago. And now, centuries later, Tom Paine's mantle in the battle of freedom agianst tyranny has fallen to the Daily Mail and that is why the good, honest, decent hardworking burghers and bourgeoisie of England continue to buy the paper that defies the elite and all of their carbon scams.

The Mail on Sunday exposed the ex-Labour councillor, Reverend Flowers.
Let us pray that the progressive elite never manage to restrict the freedom of our press and let's hope that our press can expose all the rest of them.

The flame of liberty burns brightly, let us fan it, let us face down an elite who wish to remove our freedoms, who wish to destroy our civil liberties, who wish to introduce biometric ID cards and DNA databases, who wish to force us to live "sustainably" and who wish to do as Vladimir Lenin said

"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation"

Let us join the resistance, let us read the Daily Mail.

Let us join the resistance, let us read the Daily Mail

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Join the whinging grumblers, more like.

Oh, claig, you are turning in to a caricature of yourself!

'Join the whinging grumblers, more like'

There is nothing wrong with whinging and grumbling about the Reverend Flowers and about his expenses from a charity.

Whinging and grumbling is the first stage in becoming aware of what is going on and is the first stage in taking action to vote some of the rascals out.

There are whingers and grumblers amongst the decent, hardworking folk who read the Daily Mail and that is why the ex-Chief of Staff, Jonathan Powell, to the New Labour "ethical" politician Tony Blair, once said to Andrew Neil on TV

"the paper that the politicians really fear is the Daily Mail".

Join the whingers and grumblers, make them clean up their act, join the resistance, read the Daily Mail.

Oh Claig :(
The elite=the bourgeouis. The owners of the means of production are the suppressers, to do away with them (not in a violent sense) is to do away with inequality and hierarchy. The workers don't want the crumbs of the bourgeouis pie, they dont even want a slice, they want the whole pie to share between themselves equally. That is what communism advocates. That is a fair system free from oppression.

'Oh, claig, you are turning in to a caricature of yourself!'

You've got to have a bit of a laugh about it.

But as one of our greatest national figures ever, once said - a man who most probably if alive today would have a subscription to the Daily Mail and to no other paper, for he always sought the truth and nothing but the truth

"In jest, there is truth" - William Shakespeare

'The workers don't want the crumbs of the bourgeouis pie, they dont even want a slice, they want the whole pie to share between themselves equally. That is what communism advocates. That is a fair system free from oppression.'

This is a con, a lie, it is a trick.

There are people who lived through it, Angela Merkel and the ex-KGB agent Putin. They know about it, they saw it, they were part of it, but they no longer believe it, they saw through it and lived to see a brighter day.

The arrested Maoist 'Comrade Bala' still appears to believe in communism, but ex-KGB agent, Vladimir Putin, ditched it years ago.

I wouldn't be surprised if Putin joined the resistance and got his guidance from the Daily Mail.

'The elite=the bourgeouis. The owners of the means of production'

No, the elite produce nothing, they make nothing, they sit on acres of land in large castles and play with finance. They tell ordinary people that they have to live "sustainably", while they live in luxury.

The elite are not producers, in fact with their green global warming scam, they want to close down our productive capacity, our factories and our makers of manufactured goods in order to impoverish ordinary people and force them into a post-industrial future of zero growth, "sustainabiliy" and crippling fuel and water prices.

The elite produce nothing, they are anti-growth and have an anti-human green agenda which claims that humans are destroying the planet.

The Marxists are anti-capitalism and so too are the elite because both systems are part of the elite's plan to stop the growth and freedom of the people.

And Jonathan Powell, ex-Chief of Staff to Anthony Charles Lynton Blair of Fettes public school, the Eton of the North, once rightly said to Andrew Neil on BBC TV

"the paper the poliicians fear the most is the Daily Mail"

How even more right would he have been if he added

"the paper the elite fear the most is the Daily Mail"

Put down your Morning Star, put down the pamphlets of 'Comrade Bala' and pick up your Daily Mail.

But hurry up, be quick, because if you don't get down the shops early, it will be sure to be sold out, because the people seek the truth and know what is all about.

Yes the bourgeouis produce nothing that is what I am saying. They are the Owners of mass production. I don't see why you can't get your head around that concept. They own the papers, the factories, the land and the properties. They are the elite.

'They own the papers, the factories, the land and the properties'

But they don't. Shareholders and pension funds and millions of ordinary workers and millions of hardworking decent Mail Online reading Americans own the companies on the Nasdaq and the Dow. Small business owners own factories, engineers and designers like Dyson own factories, people like Steve Jobs who came from an ordinary family and was adopted created the wealth that was generated by the company Apple which has enriched the lives of millions and millions of people on the planet.

The elite have enriched nobody but themselves, they have created wars to rob people of their resources and they want to rob humanity of its future with their post-industrial vision of "sustainability" fuelled by their apocalyptic scare tactic scam of global warming which is pushed by their media which makes blockbusters about the polar bear in order to gain the sympathy of young children and maintain their phoney scare.

Their banks and their scammers have dispossessed people of their homes and businesses time and time again.

The elite are crooks, the elite are corrupt, but capitalism and business entrepreneurs aren't.

There is a reason the elite fear the Daily Mail and that is because it is on to the scammers with their global warming and banking scams and the elite know that millions and millions of people read it every day in its online form.

The elite want you to watch extravaganzas about the polar bear, they want you to fall for "sustainability", the last thing they want you to do is open a copy of the Daily Mail and discover the truth and the real deal about their scams. The elite know that if you read the Daily Mail, you too might start calling to "cut the green crap".

I wouldn't be surprised if the elite are hacked off with the Daily Mail and would like to see it controlled and regulated by some of their political puppets.