Why I No Longer Feel Comfortable Wearing a Poppy

[Geckos48]

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/madeleine-fry/poppy-day_b_4169581.html

very eloquently put. Exactly how I feel about the whole debacle.

November 11th should be for those who selflessly gave their lives in the World Wars, not those who chose to fight dubious campaigns abroad.

Its Gecko's chosen career path that bothers me tbh. I couldn't give a monkeys if she gets in with people but she shouldn't do the job she is training for, IMO.

Lots of people read it, only you think it didn't make sense.

The same sentiment has been shared by many.

kim147 your posts are spot on (mostly) :)

SO it was intended as one then?

Oh here we go again.

Seriously, change the record, you know nothing about me.

Teacher?

I know the BS you spout across the boards Gecko. Seriously read your posts, you do not sound like someone who should do the job you want to do!

To be honest, I feel the same way about every one else's view of war.

I think it is arrogant to assume that we can 'free' people and lead them to a better reality than they would get to on their own.

I think that it is dreadful to go storming into places with bombs and bullets.

Again, this thread was supposed to be about the article I linked to (which I dont think most of the people commenting have actually read) and there is a big difference between the veterans of the WW's and those who have made a career out of being part of an armed forces that spreads terror and corruption around the world.

This thread is not about social workers.

You are missing MrsDeVere's point, OP.

Geckos48

Again, this thread was supposed to be about the article I linked to (which I dont think most of the people commenting have actually read) and there is a big difference between the veterans of the WW's and those who have made a career out of being part of an armed forces that spreads terror and corruption around the world.

As I explained to you earlier, the veterans from WW1 were not the noble crusaders for freedom that you claim they were, even if they thought that was the case. WW1 was an Imperial war between two great Imperial powers. It was a war for control of territories and a war fought to control the balance of power. It was certainly a less noble cause than the Falklands, less noble than Bosnia, less noble than the first Gulf War in 1990 (which, you will fail to recall, was sanctioned by the UN).

That takes nothing from the sacrifice of those servicemen who fought in it. It is a simple fact, which is something you have failed to deal in at any point in this thread.

I'm not entirely convinced that there isn't a better way to make the same point

it seems to me to be a little aggressive and very unnecessary if someone uses someone's personal real life profession to belittle their opinion

I disagree, the soldiers in WW1 had no way of knowing that they were not fighting for freedom.

Soldiers nowadays have reams of information available to them to show the real nature of the 'wars' we wage.

So shall we have a red poppy for the conscripts?
And maybe a black one for the professional soldiers?

Would that suit your childish view of the innocents selflessly giving their lives?

No its not relevant, its a dig at my career choice (again) and its totally irrelevant, I would go into it if it weren't for the former part of that sentence but I am so utterly bored of it now I refuse to.

They are not comparable, I have my reasons for that but not that I would like to discuss with you.

not when there are valid other ways to discuss the matter

No we should just have a remembrance Sunday that is in remembrance of the veterans from the WW's and have a different day for people who want to support the soldiers of the current conflicts.

It's not the OP's real-life profession.

So, you can have a dig at thousands of people's career choices, but no-one can have a dig at yours?

Hypocrite, much!

have a different day for people who want to support the soldiers of the current conflicts. why?

Listen to yourself!

soldiers are relevant to war and the poppy appeal, social workers aren't.

There are better ways of making a point